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Old Apr 17, 2012 | 09:45 PM
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I just put them on my car a month ago, I am downloading pictures right now..stay tuned!

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Originally Posted by kevakasper
I just put them on my car a month ago, I am downloading pictures right now..stay tuned!
Thanks ! Are those PS2 runflat 285's on the rear? They seem to fit better than the 325's in the other pics.
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Old Apr 17, 2012 | 10:27 PM
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Originally Posted by need-for-speed
Wow. That is great info

Thanks for the pics !

Normally, I'm not a fan of putting oversize tires on factory wheels, but that rear tire does look funny and I agree - I'd go 335's next time too. I have been following these tire threads so that when the time comes, I'll know what brand I want. And based on my research here, I was going to go with the Michelin PS2 runflats.

Can anyone provide pics of Michelin PS2 runflats on a "skinny body" C6 (i.e. with 285 size rear) ?

I don't want that look. Do they make a Michelin PS2 runflat in a 295 width ?
I would like to see any photos too
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Yup285/35/19 PS2ZP's on a 19 x 10 GCA forged 7 spoke.

I am running 1/4 spacers. With the original GY runflats the tire was right at the edge of the fender, the Michelin's are a lot rounder at the edge and look a bit smaller. But the ride, handling and noise are worth the minimal narrower look. Awesome tires!
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Old Apr 18, 2012 | 10:11 AM
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My guess is the Michelin and Goodyear look so different because of the engineering and design not being the same between the two companies. You could probably see that with a side by side comparison of any size tire made by each company.
When I was looking on TR and DT if I recall correctly the Michelin AS is actually wider than the GY's (not sure and not trying to start argument)

Here are some pics of the Pilot Sport AS Plus on a 09 C6 w/Z51 package.

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Old Apr 18, 2012 | 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Gearhead Jim
How big is big?


My comparisons always have some time between them, they aren't really back-to-back because of the time lag in switching the tires.

Any C6 handles very well, so the A/S won't turn it into a truck. For a DD or touring tire, I think they are quite satisfactory. But if you like to attack the twisties, you'll like the PS2's better.

Our member phillyeaglesfan had the A/S on his base coupe and didn't like them so much, so my opinion is not universal. But I think he lives in curvy country.
I had a 2008 C6 Z51, and I still could take curves faster than most other cars with the all seasons. BUT, I know I could do better with the PS2's.

The better predictability for all weather conditions was why I chose the AS tires for a daily driver.
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Originally Posted by Dendk
Cold weather is one thing and rain another, the PS2 has phenomenal grip in rain/water situations, spring mountain had a demonstration one year with a Z06, Michelin and water...they work very well for a street tire in the wet
The stock Goodyear's on my old C5 were famous for hydroplaning in the rain.
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Old Apr 18, 2012 | 01:45 PM
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[QUOTE=Tide Will Roll!;1580587228]My guess is the Michelin and Goodyear look so different because of the engineering and design not being the same between the two companies. You could probably see that with a side by side comparison of any size tire made by each company.
When I was looking on TR and DT if I recall correctly the Michelin AS is actually wider than the GY's (not sure and not trying to start argument)

Here are some pics of the Pilot Sport AS Plus on a 09 C6 w/Z51 package.

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Thanks for the pics. The look good. I can tell a lot about the front but not the back.
Do they look better on the rim than Marc V's 325? From what I can see they seem to. Really hope so. Right now I am going with the AS all so.
Thanks for all the info
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Old Apr 18, 2012 | 06:53 PM
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Originally Posted by C6Whatever
Do they look better on the rim than Marc V's 325? From what I can see they seem to. Really hope so. Right now I am going with the AS all so.
Thanks for all the info
Just for comparison, I found a photo of my Goodyear 325s (the wheel on the right is the rear).

Note how the sidewall is pretty much flat.






Now the photo again of my Michelin 325s on the same rim. WTF?

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Originally Posted by Thunder8
I've gone to the A/S and I really like them. I live in Nothern CA and it gets below 40* on a regular basis in the winter, plus I commute and sometime it rains, a lot. They're a 100% better than the GY's RF's that came stock. Much quieter, more grip and they're wearing very well after about 7,500 miles of spirited driving. I'd buy them again if given the choice. My friends PS2's wore too fast for my liking as well. GL.
Your mods says you have PS2s. Is that what you had before the AS?
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Originally Posted by Marc V.
Just for comparison, I found a photo of my Goodyear 325s (the wheel on the right is the rear).

Note how the sidewall is pretty much flat.






Now the photo again of my Michelin 325s on the same rim. WTF?

Yep I see the difference. that sucker is stretched out there
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Old Apr 18, 2012 | 09:09 PM
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Thanks Guys for all the excellent info. I think I will go with the Michelins PS2 runflats. I have 28,000 on the original Goodyears. Will I get this good of mileage out of the PS2's or can I expect less? I intend to continue my moderate driving style. Thanks
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Originally Posted by PT109
Thanks Guys for all the excellent info. I think I will go with the Michelins PS2 runflats. I have 28,000 on the original Goodyears. Will I get this good of mileage out of the PS2's or can I expect less? I intend to continue my moderate driving style. Thanks
We don't have a lot of people wearing out their PS2's yet, so the data is a little thin.

My guess is that they will last longer than the Z51 Supercar tires that some of us had, but perhaps not as long as the base tires.

Of course, driving style and pavement surface can easily change your tire life by a factor of 3.
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Originally Posted by b murph
Michelin : Over Rated , Over Priced .
And you are basing your statement on what Mr Tire Expert ............... Who btw has a whole 34 posts to his (her?) name in almost 5 years !
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Old Apr 18, 2012 | 11:55 PM
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Originally Posted by MikeyTX
And you are basing your statement on what Mr Tire Expert ............... Who btw has a whole 34 posts to his (her?) name in almost 5 years !
Thank you for that one. Been waiting for someone to say something
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Originally Posted by PT109
I think I will go with the Michelins PS2 runflats. I have 28,000 on the original Goodyears. Will I get this good of mileage out of the PS2's or can I expect less?
No way you'd get that mileage. I wouldn't count on more than 20K babying them all the time. But if that's the case, why the heck buy them in the first place? Buy the A/Ss and they'll last a lot longer, be quieter, and would allow you to safely drive in cold weather and mild winters. If you really like to push your car in the twisties, then you'd miss a summer tire like the PS2s, BUT used accordingly, you'd eat it up way sooner than 20K miles. Every tire is a compromise; decide what you want out of your tires first, then select the appropriate one. Good luck.
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Originally Posted by C6Whatever
Thank you for that one. Been waiting for someone to say something
There was no excuse for that person's statement. I'd wager said person doesn't even own a Corvette.
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Originally Posted by MikeyTX
And you are basing your statement on what Mr Tire Expert ............... Who btw has a whole 34 posts to his (her?) name in almost 5 years !
Originally Posted by MikeyTX
There was no excuse for that person's statement. I'd wager said person doesn't even own a Corvette.
I just thought it was extremely rude. Why did the "person" even post anything.
Thanks for being there.
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Originally Posted by Tide Will Roll!
My guess is the Michelin and Goodyear look so different because of the engineering and design not being the same between the two companies. You could probably see that with a side by side comparison of any size tire made by each company.
When I was looking on TR and DT if I recall correctly the Michelin AS is actually wider than the GY's (not sure and not trying to start argument)

Here are some pics of the Pilot Sport AS Plus on a 09 C6 w/Z51 package.

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Bert do you have any spacers on your? Car looks good!
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Old Apr 19, 2012 | 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by ELP_JC
No way you'd get that mileage. I wouldn't count on more than 20K babying them all the time. But if that's the case, why the heck buy them in the first place? Buy the A/Ss and they'll last a lot longer, be quieter, and would allow you to safely drive in cold weather and mild winters. If you really like to push your car in the twisties, then you'd miss a summer tire like the PS2s, BUT used accordingly, you'd eat it up way sooner than 20K miles. Every tire is a compromise; decide what you want out of your tires first, then select the appropriate one. Good luck.
We went through 2 1/2 sets of Z51 Supercar tires on our 2006; getting about 20k miles from each set, and I replaced them at 2/32" tread or greater. The car was mostly a DD, but also did a moderate amount of autocross.

We have about 15k on our current PS2 runflats, and the tread gauge indicates they are about half way down toward 2/32", so I'm guessing at 25k-30k miles total life on them.

But as they say, YMMV.
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