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Old Apr 27, 2012 | 07:10 PM
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I just received my new wheels with new tpms, i want to if its possible to set my tpms without a tool. My truck is a gm sierra, all i need to do is turn the ignition on, press and fob lock and unlock button at the same time to go in learn mode and then unflate tires until its set. How could i take the vette in learn mode so i dont need to go see my dealer for this?? Yes i did searched nothing so far.
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Everyone has been using a tool/device. If there was a way not to use one, i havent seen a post on that either.
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Well......... now i have to retract above comment. Read this and see if it fits your needs....
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/1576149946-post3.html
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Well......... now i have to retract above comment. Read this and see if it fits your needs....
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/1576149946-post3.html
thanks a lot, that is exactly what i was looking for
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Old Apr 27, 2012 | 09:36 PM
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I just received my new wheels with new tpms, i want to if its possible to set my tpms without a tool. My truck is a gm sierra, all i need to do is turn the ignition on, press and fob lock and unlock button at the same time to go in learn mode and then unflate tires until its set. How could i take the vette in learn mode so i dont need to go see my dealer for this?? Yes i did searched nothing so far.
The 2005-2009 C6 came with sensors that require a TPMS tool.

In 2010 they changed the TPMS computer in the car, and it uses a different tire pressure sensor. That sensor was installed in 2010 cars, and in 2011 model year car built in Dec 2010 or earlier.

In Jan 2011 they started using a different sensor (same TPMS that they started using for the 2010, just a different sensor).

The sensors in 2010's and 2011's built through Dec 2010 can be triggered by changing air pressure.

The sensors they started installing in Jan 2011 once again REQUIRE a TPMS tool.

So.....
  • 2005-2009 require a TPMS tool; they use a gray sensor GM part# 25758220
  • 2010 and 2011 built up through Dec 2010 don't need a tool; their OE sensors are green and GM part# 15268606
  • Cars built since Jan2011 require a tool; their OE sensor is black and GM part# 20925924

The 2005-2009 must use the gray sensor - the other ones won't work with its TPMS computer.

HOWEVER....All 2010 and newer C6's have the same TPMS computer and can use either the green or black sensor. If I had a 2010 or newer and got a second set of wheels/tires that I was only going to change infrequently, I would get the green sensors so I wouldn't need a TPMS tool (at least one way - I'd still need it if I put wheels with black sensors back on the car).

I do track events and have a couple sets of wheels/tires/sensors and change them a lot, so I have a tool. Doing the air pressure change method and then readjusting air pressures would take too much time and be a PITA as often as I swap.

The TPMS tool can be purchased for $62.33 and it only takes about 1 minute to do the programming procedure, so if you're going to swap between street and track wheels/tires/sensors often just get a tool!!!

The video below shows how to do the procedure.

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OMFG I hate TPMS!! bump.... you have a flat tire.... cold night... your tire pressure is low..... rail road tracks... you have a flat tire.... FFS i have never had a car complain so much and I have had other cars with it.

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It really would be nice if the system could at least adjust for elevation if not temperature also. If I take my car up to the ski area in the summer in the evening, I will always have at least one low tire warning. 4,000 feet of added elevation and a 30 to 40 degree temperature drop will do it every time. Next day all tires are right at 30.
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You may as well get used to TPMS, as every car on the road made since 08' has it. Bob(BEZO6) helped me with a Bartech tool, intended mostly for my track set up. Found it now comes in handy for any modern car wheel rotation. Un update to the 10' model year sensor intention. Read some articles, that GM did this to save the customer from needing the program tool. Turns out these type systems were picking up signals from nearby cars, so GM abandoned it.
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well thanks for the info, thats suck though, i think ill get a tool then
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well thanks for the info, thats suck though, i think ill get a tool then
Well, maybe not much a deal, depending how you look at it. You can always have the local tire store do the programming. The shown green OTC tips003a is a nice tool for the money. But get one if you can, as recently discontinued. Still lives on as the red KTI 71990a, but quite pricey. I like having a better two way communicating TPMS tool, as mentioned, all late model cars have TPMS now. The two way tools can check for bad sensors, when nowhere near the car. Can pre-check my track tires, while sitting in the basement. Some of the cheapo tools, don't have this funtion.
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The shop who mounted my tires did it for free in exchange of pics of my vette!!
Here a teaser
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Nice looking wheels, and really like the finish. Never been a chrome fan myself, and your's are just right. Probably remove the little GM chcklet's though, as only takes a few minutes. Mine are long gone.
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thanks, ill make a full pics thread really soon...
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Originally Posted by BEZ06
The 2005-2009 C6 came with sensors that require a TPMS tool.

In 2010 they changed the TPMS computer in the car, and it uses a different tire pressure sensor. That sensor was installed in 2010 cars, and in 2011 model year car built in Dec 2010 or earlier.

In Jan 2011 they started using a different sensor (same TPMS that they started using for the 2010, just a different sensor).

The sensors in 2010's and 2011's built through Dec 2010 can be triggered by changing air pressure.

The sensors they started installing in Jan 2011 once again REQUIRE a TPMS tool.

So.....
  • 2005-2009 require a TPMS tool; they use a gray sensor GM part# 25758220
  • 2010 and 2011 built up through Dec 2010 don't need a tool; their OE sensors are green and GM part# 15268606
  • Cars built since Jan2011 require a tool; their OE sensor is black and GM part# 20925924

The 2005-2009 must use the gray sensor - the other ones won't work with its TPMS computer.

HOWEVER....All 2010 and newer C6's have the same TPMS computer and can use either the green or black sensor. If I had a 2010 or newer and got a second set of wheels/tires that I was only going to change infrequently, I would get the green sensors so I wouldn't need a TPMS tool (at least one way - I'd still need it if I put wheels with black sensors back on the car).

I do track events and have a couple sets of wheels/tires/sensors and change them a lot, so I have a tool. Doing the air pressure change method and then readjusting air pressures would take too much time and be a PITA as often as I swap.

The TPMS tool can be purchased for $62.33 and it only takes about 1 minute to do the programming procedure, so if you're going to swap between street and track wheels/tires/sensors often just get a tool!!!

The video below shows how to do the procedure.

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do u have a link or part# for the tpms tool?
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Old Jul 5, 2012 | 09:28 AM
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My TPMS is reading 17psi on the right front. After checking it the psi was normal. I'm assuming I need to get a new TPMS on that wheel.
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Originally Posted by stevette17
do u have a link or part# for the tpms tool?
There's a TIPS tool on that auction site right now that's already bid up to $189, and there are a couple identical KTI tools for around $240.

Butt.....here's a link to the cheapest one available, even though they have recently raised the price by $6:

http://gmspecialservicetools.spx.com...s.aspx?id=5677


That's a low-end tool that doesn't do much in the way of diagnostics, but it will trigger the sensors to do the relearn programming procedure.

Note that it says "call to order", so click on "how to order" at the top of their page for a phone #.

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My TPMS is reading 17psi on the right front. After checking it the psi was normal. I'm assuming I need to get a new TPMS on that wheel.
Did you check the pressure in ALL the tires???

If your sensors got mixed up when you got new tires and they ended up on a different corner of the car than where they were originally mounted, they'll still work fine, but the DIC reported location won't correspond to the actual location of the low pressure.

So....check ALL the pressures to see if the low pressure might actually be in a different tire than reported by the DIC.

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Originally Posted by Vette5.5
Well, maybe not much a deal, depending how you look at it. You can always have the local tire store do the programming. The shown green OTC tips003a is a nice tool for the money. But get one if you can, as recently discontinued. Still lives on as the red KTI 71990a, but quite pricey. I like having a better two way communicating TPMS tool, as mentioned, all late model cars have TPMS now. The two way tools can check for bad sensors, when nowhere near the car. Can pre-check my track tires, while sitting in the basement. Some of the cheapo tools, don't have this funtion.

If you don't change wheels often....if you don't need to buy a TPMS tool simply have a tire store reset the sensors. Don't go to a dealership as they're likely to charge you for this simple service. To the best of my knowledge Discount Tire stores will reset your sensors free of charge. You might want to call first to verify the stores policy. Have the car in learn mode and ready to go when the guy gets there with his TPMS tool in-hand (a tip $ is optional).

As always, good TPMS info from BEZ06 covering the range of TPS's used in the various model year Corvettes. Thanks!
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Originally Posted by Icetoad
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OMFG I hate TPMS!! bump.... you have a flat tire.... cold night... your tire pressure is low..... rail road tracks... you have a flat tire.... FFS i have never had a car complain so much and I have had other cars with it.

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We've had three Corvettes with TPMS (2001, 2006, 2009). Eleven years/160,000 miles. I've only had one warning from the system, and the tire was indeed low.

I'm very pleased with the system.
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