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New Rumor!
A friend of mine in Bowling Green frequently has a few beers with the Corvette Plant Union President. Well, after a few( or maybe more than that) he let it slip that they have plans for a Super Vette. Supposedly it will be power by a V-12 and share the engine with the new Cadillac that is to be built at the plant. I sure hope this is true and not just the beer talking. Can you say Viper who???????? Just thought I'd pass along the info. :cheers:
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Re: New Rumor! (ZAD54)
Sounds like the beer talking.
The Cien show car stoked rumors of a Super Corvette. I've read (here) that Lutz nixed it.
As cool as a Super Corvette might be, few could afford one and it would do diddly-squat for GM's bottom line. Corvette is good enough as a halo car -- if anything, it's more impressive to build a supercar to a (relatively) low price than it is to build an all-out megabuck marvel.
GM needs to put some of Corvette's excellence into its rank-and-file cars, not divert more engineering to an irrelevent monster.
Besides, a Super Corvette would put an artificial ceiling on the potential of the Corvette we're likely to be able to purchase.
.Jinx
The Cien show car stoked rumors of a Super Corvette. I've read (here) that Lutz nixed it.
As cool as a Super Corvette might be, few could afford one and it would do diddly-squat for GM's bottom line. Corvette is good enough as a halo car -- if anything, it's more impressive to build a supercar to a (relatively) low price than it is to build an all-out megabuck marvel.
GM needs to put some of Corvette's excellence into its rank-and-file cars, not divert more engineering to an irrelevent monster.
Besides, a Super Corvette would put an artificial ceiling on the potential of the Corvette we're likely to be able to purchase.
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Re: New Rumor! (ZAD54)
A friend of mine in Bowling Green frequently has a few beers with the Corvette Plant Union President. Well, after a few( or maybe more than that) he let it slip that they have plans for a Super Vette. Supposedly it will be power by a V-12 and share the engine with the new Cadillac that is to be built at the plant. I sure hope this is true and not just the beer talking.
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A friend of mine in Bowling Green frequently has a few beers with the Corvette Plant Union President. Well, after a few( or maybe more than that) he let it slip that they have plans for a Super Vette. Supposedly it will be power by a V-12 and share the engine with the new Cadillac that is to be built at the plant. I sure hope this is true and not just the beer talking.
Your friend had too many beers, and he was letting his imagination get the . best of him. There is a production version "super Vette" coming very soon, but it's never gonna see a dealer showroom/lot. It will be a "golden" opportunity to obtain one though. :D:D
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Your friend had too many beers, and he was letting his imagination get the . best of him. There is a production version "super Vette" coming very soon, but it's never gonna see a dealer showroom/lot. It will be a "golden" opportunity to obtain one though. :D:D
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Re: New Rumor! (Speide)
I READ the same thing back before christmas. A very exciting thing to see, but we'll see. I think it could be possible, if its not GM it could be a callaway. And remember, Ford is considering bringing back the GT40 with a possible price tag of 100,000 if they decide to. Which they probably will considering all the attention its gotten from a lot of the car mags. If Ford can do it and people will buy into it, then maybe GM will bet on the same with a 600hp vette. I also read that the 03 Z06 hung right in there with the new Viper, so even if they choose not to follow through with it, Dodge has some competition right now.
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Re: New Rumor! (84Coyote)
GM has said they will never again do anything like the Callaway turbo cars... and realize that Callaway has not had any support at all from GM with his C5 projects. Callaway makes C5-based cars right now - but folks don't consider them part of the Corvette line really.
I'd love to see a super-Vette... but I think GM has been burned many times by this... with the Callaways and the ZR-1 and I dont think they are willing to do much more than they have already done with the Z06.
I'd love to see a super-Vette... but I think GM has been burned many times by this... with the Callaways and the ZR-1 and I dont think they are willing to do much more than they have already done with the Z06.
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I want to see the rebirth of ZR1. :yesnod: They sold in 90-95, they will sell today. It was a shame that the ZR1 was canceled before the 475HP LT5 that was already designed was dropped into any cars. :sad:
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I want to see the rebirth of ZR1. :yesnod: They sold in 90-95, they will sell today. It was a shame that the ZR1 was canceled before the 475HP LT5 that was already designed was dropped into any cars. :sad:
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Don't believe everything you hear, but I did talk with a certain someone from GM last year at the NCM and I spoke with someone else about a certain valvetrain and they both denied it, but the way they denied it leads me to believe it's true.
I shall wait and see.
I shall wait and see.
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I want to see the rebirth of ZR1. :yesnod: They sold in 90-95, they will sell today. It was a shame that the ZR1 was canceled before the 475HP LT5 that was already designed was dropped into any cars. :sad:
As for the High-perf trim of the C6, I really don't think that we can be confident of much since it would probably come in 2007 and a lot can happen b/w now and then.
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loved the ZR-1 too, but sell?....it didn't. It did fine in 90-91, but tanked after that with about 400 units per year-that's why we didn't see it for 96 on.
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I believe the reason we didn't see a 96 ZR 1, was due to the fact that the LT 5 engine would have had to been recertified for EPA.
And that is why we got the wonderful LT 4, for a one year term...
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[Modified by 67vet, 12:09 AM 6/3/2002]
loved the ZR-1 too, but sell?....it didn't. It did fine in 90-91, but tanked after that with about 400 units per year-that's why we didn't see it for 96 on.
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I believe the reason we didn't see a 96 ZR 1, was due to the fact that the LT 5 engine would have had to been recertified for EPA.
And that is why we got the wonderful LT 4, for a one year term...
:chevy :chevy :chevy
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I loved the ZR-1 too, but sell?....it didn't. It did fine in 90-91, but tanked after that with about 400 units per year-that's why we didn't see it for 96 on.
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Re: (scorp508)
I want to see the rebirth of ZR1. :yesnod: They sold in 90-95, they will sell today. It was a shame that the ZR1 was canceled before the 475HP LT5 that was already designed was dropped into any cars. :sad:
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They had a 475HP LT5 that was ready to certify for ODBII in 1993. We could have seen 500HP in 1995 pretty easily. Would have saved me some money :)
Still, would be AWESOME to have a new ZR1.
Forgot to add - Ford is now doing "designer" Mustangs. They have the Mach 1 as this years model, last year was the bullet. Next year another of the "storied" Mustangs is being repeated.... and they do have different charactistics (and even engines) from one another.
Would be awesome for GM to do something like that.
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[Modified by ZROne, 11:16 AM 6/6/2002]
Still, would be AWESOME to have a new ZR1.
Forgot to add - Ford is now doing "designer" Mustangs. They have the Mach 1 as this years model, last year was the bullet. Next year another of the "storied" Mustangs is being repeated.... and they do have different charactistics (and even engines) from one another.
Would be awesome for GM to do something like that.
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[Modified by ZROne, 11:16 AM 6/6/2002]
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Re: New Rumor! (ZAD54)
Didn't I read recently that the boys from GM were shopping in England for a manufacturer to build a limited edition GT-40 fighter? Same engineers as the BG bunch. Would carry a Cad brand.
Makes sense to do it that way. Keeps the Vett and the XLR "clean" as products and gives GM flexibility to respond to the GT-40 on whatever level is appropriate. Also ties into Cad's LeMans program from a marketing point of view.
Maybe in the latest AutoWeek? :cool:
Makes sense to do it that way. Keeps the Vett and the XLR "clean" as products and gives GM flexibility to respond to the GT-40 on whatever level is appropriate. Also ties into Cad's LeMans program from a marketing point of view.
Maybe in the latest AutoWeek? :cool:
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I'm not really trying to start a flame war, but my understanding was that the ZR-1 sold poorly from 92-95 (off a bit on the dates earlier on) b/c the LT1 introduction in '92 brought the Zr-1 and regular models much closer in power, thus making the $30k ZR-1 package much less appealing.
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weight, expense, and size killed off the LT5 too. the C5 hood line is very low and packaging was going to be tough. GM also didn't like that the engine was designed by Lotus and manf. by Mercury marine. the GM engineers didn't much care for the "boat motor" and the car was seriously expensive to purchase and not too many good mechanics could work on them.
having said that, the LT5 is still the best engine IMHO. not from a pure HP/Tq stanpoint, more quality and durability. as a low volume engine, the mercury marine builders took great pride in what they did. something that I would like to see again. there are IMHO some very inherent adv. to the DOHC designs, but bottom line issues may keep it out of the C6. that's a shame. I would rather pay 80k for a world class car like the ZR1 was, than get stomped by a blown GT40. F*rd at least has the cajones to build a super car, Corvette needs to kick asp, and run and hide from the Gt40. with the viper and the GT40 at 500 hp, corvette needs to respond in kind. :yesnod:
having said that, the LT5 is still the best engine IMHO. not from a pure HP/Tq stanpoint, more quality and durability. as a low volume engine, the mercury marine builders took great pride in what they did. something that I would like to see again. there are IMHO some very inherent adv. to the DOHC designs, but bottom line issues may keep it out of the C6. that's a shame. I would rather pay 80k for a world class car like the ZR1 was, than get stomped by a blown GT40. F*rd at least has the cajones to build a super car, Corvette needs to kick asp, and run and hide from the Gt40. with the viper and the GT40 at 500 hp, corvette needs to respond in kind. :yesnod: