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Old Sep 19, 2012 | 12:19 PM
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I've had the car 3 day and have had an equal number of problems! The first three were minor, this one is a BIGGIE.

Was about 1/4 mile form the house went to shift form 1 >2 pushed in the clutch and the peddle went limp and to the floor and stayed there. Don't know what's up but for sure she's going back to the dealer. Anyone have any idea what's up? (so I can make sure it gets fixed correctly) Thanks in advance.
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Old Sep 19, 2012 | 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Pabeye
I've had the car 3 day and have had an equal number of problems! The first three were minor, this one is a BIGGIE.

Was about 1/4 mile form the house went to shift form 1 >2 pushed in the clutch and the peddle went limp and to the floor and stayed there. Don't know what's up but for sure she's going back to the dealer. Anyone have any idea what's up? (so I can make sure it gets fixed correctly) Thanks in advance.
either air in hydraulics or failure in slave or master or both and subsequent air, check the level of fluid for starters and look for signs of brake fluid leaks.
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Old Sep 19, 2012 | 12:27 PM
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Before you repair anything, try the DIY fluid swap:



But my guess is, unfortunately, it will need repairs.

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Old Sep 20, 2012 | 03:51 PM
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Could be a clutch pedal return spring. Check that, it could be broken!
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Old Sep 20, 2012 | 05:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Pabeye
I've had the car 3 day and have had an equal number of problems! The first three were minor, this one is a BIGGIE.

Was about 1/4 mile form the house went to shift form 1 >2 pushed in the clutch and the peddle went limp and to the floor and stayed there. Don't know what's up but for sure she's going back to the dealer. Anyone have any idea what's up? (so I can make sure it gets fixed correctly) Thanks in advance.
Is this car new or used?
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Old Sep 20, 2012 | 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by R&L's C6
Is this car new or used?
It is used...2006 with 21K miles
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Old Sep 20, 2012 | 06:25 PM
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Could be a clutch pedal return spring. Check that, it could be broken!
Exactly what the dealer said, as the car is now in the shop. Should know more tomorrow or maybe Monday. All repairs and the tow are on his dime, so it's all good so far. I'm just a bit worried that this will continue.

Under NYS law I have 3 months or 4000K miles to get the bits sorted out.

Are Vettes known to be unreliable? I'm used to rock solid Honda reliability! My last "toy" was an S2000 and it never say the inside of a shop!
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Old Sep 20, 2012 | 06:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Pabeye
Exactly what the dealer said, as the car is now in the shop. Should know more tomorrow or maybe Monday. All repairs and the tow are on his dime, so it's all good so far. I'm just a bit worried that this will continue.

Under NYS law I have 3 months or 4000K miles to get the bits sorted out.

Are Vettes known to be unreliable? I'm used to rock solid Honda reliability! My last "toy" was an S2000 and it never say the inside of a shop!
I have seen more threads on the forum than I like to see about the master/slave cylinders failing on these cars.
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Old Sep 20, 2012 | 06:40 PM
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@10k had the same thing happen to me !
Clutch master cylinder was the verdict when I picked it up 3 days later. The worst part was watching a complete idiot try to load my z on his rollback !
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Have the dealer change the clutch fluid while the car is with them. The fluid s/b clear, not dark...you will then need to maintain it appropriately afterwrads.
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Have the dealer change the clutch fluid while the car is with them. The fluid s/b clear, not dark...you will then need to maintain it appropriately afterwrads.


The most important thing you can do to try and prevent problems.
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Old Sep 20, 2012 | 07:42 PM
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Most likely the clutch fluid has never been changed(GM now recommends that it be done every 2 years). New fluid should do the job.

What ever the dealer does to get your cat back on the road, it's best to change out the clutch fluid every 6 months using the Ranger method. Only takes about 15 minutes and a $3 bottle of Prestone DOT 4 synthetic brake fluid and a syringe found in the 2-cycle dept at Walmart. Don't use a plastic syringe or turkey baster found in the kitchen dept as the brake fluid will destroy the plastic and can come apart and spill on your car, doing much paint damage.
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Old Sep 20, 2012 | 09:47 PM
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Why does the clutch fluid get contaminated so quickly ?
It may sound like a silly question but I've never really had any problems in the past with my Camaro or my silverado.
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Old Sep 20, 2012 | 10:35 PM
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Originally Posted by TbiasZ06
Why does the clutch fluid get contaminated so quickly ?
It may sound like a silly question but I've never really had any problems in the past with my Camaro or my silverado.
Read this and watch the video. Everything is explained.

http://www.rangeracceleration.com/Clutch_Care.html
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Old Sep 20, 2012 | 11:38 PM
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Originally Posted by petermj
either air in hydraulics or failure in slave or master or both and subsequent air, check the level of fluid for starters and look for signs of brake fluid leaks.
It could be more involved but those are the likely suspects.

Originally Posted by biskitman
Could be a clutch pedal return spring. Check that, it could be broken!
It's worth checking but even with a broken clutch pedal return assist spring the clutch pedal normally 'returns.' I doubt that's the problem.
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Old Sep 20, 2012 | 11:57 PM
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Originally Posted by R&L's C6
I have seen more threads on the forum than I like to see about the master/slave cylinders failing on these cars.
I've experienced slave cylinder failure early in the lives of my Miata and my Jeep Cherokee. Both have been great cars. The Jeep currently has 198,000 miles and doesn't drip or burn a lick of oil and the '99 Miata is just as reliable. Your car is 7 years old, seals wears out but it's not a big deal getting them replaced.

Stay on this forum and learn everything you can about your car. High performance cars have personalities. My buddies less than a year old Aston Martin Vantage N420 required 2 motor mounts a few months ago. I've never been in a car that had a higher quality feel than his Vantage and yet something broke. It happens. His 4 year 3 month old Porsche required a new radiator, OUCH$$$. The overall reliability of your new car is quite high. There are some build quality issues but even those can be pretty easily addressed if you work with your car.

Be positive and patient and it will all be great.

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Old Sep 21, 2012 | 12:03 AM
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My '08 suffered the same malady at 8324 miles in March 2010. The clutch master cylinder and actuator were replaced under the new vehicle 3/36 warranty. 2 1/2 years and 21,000 miles later, there have been no more problmes. I do keep the clutch fluid clean, though.
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Originally Posted by CO Lightfoot
Before you repair anything, try the DIY fluid swap:


How awesome is that video?!?!
Thanks for the re-post.
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Old Sep 21, 2012 | 12:41 AM
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That is the reason that i did not get a stick!! Because that is normal on vettes from what i read on this forum for years,..,
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Old Sep 21, 2012 | 10:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Cherokee Nation
That is the reason that i did not get a stick!! Because that is normal on vettes from what i read on this forum for years,..,
Well, if it's only the return spring, it's a small price to pay for the joys of shifting my self!.......(I'm REALLY old school..........LOL)

UPDATE........just heard form the dealer........it's NOT just the spring. Something is goin on INSIDE the tranny.........they are going to take it out. Will not know more till next week!.......Oh, boy.......will keep the group updated.

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