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Old 01-20-2013, 09:22 PM
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The Corvette fob is a fickle little bit$h
Old 01-20-2013, 09:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Boomer111
No button pushing for me or horn honking with lights flashing....so lame
Have you never "lost" your car in a gigantic parking deck or lot?

The horn and flashing lights are a great way to find it!

Old 01-20-2013, 11:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Larry/car
I have my car programmed to lock automatically when I walk away, silently. It unlocks when I'm in range, again silently. You never know it happened. I discovered it is still working when I was cleaning the inside windows, left my FOB on the garage floor and closed the door. Yep, locked inside, the car was shut down tight. I had to use the emergency door release to get out. Then all ____broke out, horn sounded, lights flashed, it is working!!
One of my friends did something similar, only she left her fob in the house locked the garage door, got in the car, shut the door and didn't remember the emergency door release. waited 2 hours for her Husband to get home and let her out of the car. ( and before you ask she is a redhead).
Old 01-21-2013, 07:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Rick 98
One of my friends did something similar, only she left her fob in the house locked the garage door, got in the car, shut the door and didn't remember the emergency door release. waited 2 hours for her Husband to get home and let her out of the car. ( and before you ask she is a redhead).
And what would have happened if, instead of just being locked in a garage for 2 hours, she had been in an accident where someone hit her from the right and destroyed the battery? Could that be why GM spends all that money printing owner's manuals? Or is survival of the fittest a good policy after all?

The FOB does NOT talk to the car unless YOU push a button somewhere. Either a FOB button or a car button. The FOB battery would never last if it had to continually talk to the car.

OP, sorry to rain on your parade, but you have NOT solved the issue. The car does NOT go through a complete boot up preparing to start just because you walk up and try to open the door. The start-up booting only occurs AFTER the door has been opened. I'm thinking you have a misadjusted door ajar switch? You pull on the door and the switch thinks the door opened even though it didn't and the car starts into lighting things up and doing its clicky-clicky relaying under the dash. Try it again by squeezing the door pad switch instead of pulling on it. Without a FOB the only thing that should happen when you try to open the door is the red security light on the door should come on solid for a few seconds. No lights should come on inside at all.
Old 01-21-2013, 08:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Larry/car
I have my car programmed to lock automatically when I walk away, silently. It unlocks when I'm in range, again silently. You never know it happened. I discovered it is still working when I was cleaning the inside windows, left my FOB on the garage floor and closed the door. Yep, locked inside, the car was shut down tight. I had to use the emergency door release to get out. Then all ____broke out, horn sounded, lights flashed, it is working!!
same here, I don't need to have the lights flash and horn sound
Old 01-21-2013, 08:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Boomer111
I just have the car lock when the fob is away as well as unlock when the fob is near.

No button pushing for me or horn honking with lights flashing....so lame
I did this until one day at the golf course I left the FOB in my golf bag got ready to leave put the bag in the car closed the hatch, someone came along and asked me a question and the car locked!! Key and FOB in the golf bag. Well after getting my spare FOB (took about 1.5 hours) I shut off the auto lock feature so now when I exit the car I use the FOB to lock by pushing lock button. Sometimes you can't teach an old dog new tricks.
Old 01-21-2013, 08:26 AM
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Originally Posted by ittlfly
Not me. I can't find my a$$ with both hands sometimes. When I walk away from the car with the fob in my pocket, the horn honks and lights flash. Like saying ''Hey stupid, I'm locked, you got it right''.
Learn to trust...took me awhile in the beginning.
Old 01-21-2013, 08:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Aviator
Have you never "lost" your car in a gigantic parking deck or lot?

The horn and flashing lights are a great way to find it!

Well I can see your point, especially since I have "lived a little".

But...I usually do not leave the car in a big lot all alone, it would hurt it's feelings!
Old 01-21-2013, 09:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Larry/car
I have my car programmed to lock automatically when I walk away, silently. It unlocks when I'm in range, again silently. You never know it happened. I discovered it is still working when I was cleaning the inside windows, left my FOB on the garage floor and closed the door. Yep, locked inside, the car was shut down tight. I had to use the emergency door release to get out. Then all ____broke out, horn sounded, lights flashed, it is working!!
The car does not "unlock when I'm in range"

Read post #24 for an explanation.
Old 01-21-2013, 09:45 AM
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I hope that GM scraps this C6 fob junk on the C7. Any time that a key fob generates as much conversation as this C6 junk, it is an insane design by definition.

There is some hope. It appears that GM at least had enough sense to get rid of the C6 knee operated light switch. More insanity, hopefully gone forever.
Old 01-21-2013, 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by NevadaVette
I hope that GM scraps this C6 fob junk on the C7. Any time that a key fob generates as much conversation as this C6 junk, it is an insane design by definition.

There is some hope. It appears that GM at least had enough sense to get rid of the C6 knee operated light switch. More insanity, hopefully gone forever.
First, I doubt that they will do away with the fob system on the new car...that's just not the way the industry is going. Second, I think that describing a poorly placed button as "insanity" is a bit over the top. We are all very lucky if the poor placement of this button is a major source of anguish for us.
Old 01-21-2013, 01:21 PM
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I have never noticed the light switch issue. Maybe my legs aren't long enough.
Old 01-21-2013, 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted by FortMorganAl
OP, sorry to rain on your parade, but you have NOT solved the issue. The car does NOT go through a complete boot up preparing to start just because you walk up and try to open the door. The start-up booting only occurs AFTER the door has been opened. I'm thinking you have a misadjusted door ajar switch? You pull on the door and the switch thinks the door opened even though it didn't and the car starts into lighting things up and doing its clicky-clicky relaying under the dash. Try it again by squeezing the door pad switch instead of pulling on it. Without a FOB the only thing that should happen when you try to open the door is the red security light on the door should come on solid for a few seconds. No lights should come on inside at all.
Okay,

So today I went out to the garage absent my FOB, reached into the cutout and gently squeezed the door pad switch w/o pulling on the door. Sure enough, the interior lights came on and stayed on for about ten minutes...

I guess I'll mention this next time I take the C6 in for servicing. Not a big deal really as the car stays in a locked garage and I am pretty sure there are no covert door pad squeezers lurking about rural South Carolina...
Old 01-21-2013, 02:21 PM
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I agree that it is not particularly important but I can confirm that it is not normal behavior. I just locked my Vert in the garage, then came back 10 minutes later with no fob. When I squeezed the door pad, the only reaction was the red LED on the door went on solid and a relay clicked under the dash. No interior lights went on at all. Interesting.
Old 01-21-2013, 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Bob Yocum
You might have accidently bumped the light control **** on the dash with your knee or hand when getting out of the car.
Yeah,I would think most of us have probably done that because it's so easy to do without realizing it.I always wait for the mirror lights to go out now before I walk away.
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Originally Posted by richie15
Yeah,I would think most of us have probably done that because it's so easy to do without realizing it.I always wait for the mirror lights to go out now before I walk away.
I'm thinking that this may be the key. If you have bumped the button and the interior lights stayed on for the 20 minutes and then were cut off by the computer (which is a standard feature), it might be that the computer would turn them back on when you squeeze the door pad...even without having the key.


You can test this by checking how long it takes for the interior lights to go off after you close the door. It should take 30 seconds to a minute...no more. If it is more, then the lights are being kept on by the button having been pushed.

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Old 01-21-2013, 09:22 PM
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Originally Posted by ETID
I did this until one day at the golf course I left the FOB in my golf bag got ready to leave put the bag in the car closed the hatch, someone came along and asked me a question and the car locked!! Key and FOB in the golf bag. Well after getting my spare FOB (took about 1.5 hours) I shut off the auto lock feature so now when I exit the car I use the FOB to lock by pushing lock button. Sometimes you can't teach an old dog new tricks.
You may not have completely solved your potential problem.

With Auto Lock turned off but the car has been locked...............

If you open the trunk/hatch with the button on the car or the fob and then toss your fob (in the golf bag or not) into the trunk/cargo area and close the lid, you are now locked out again.


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Old 01-22-2013, 08:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Silverblue
...I guess I'll mention this next time I take the C6 in for servicing. Not a big deal really as the car stays in a locked garage and I am pretty sure there are no covert door pad squeezers lurking about rural South Carolina...
Good luck. I would think that is going to be a tough one for them to believe. I have not found that symptom in the service manual so they are going to have to use some thought to find it. But I would try to get it fixed. That 10 minutes of lights is more than just lights. You are running lots of things. Even the fuel pump will pressurize the system. You are draining the battery needlessly and it will happen every time the door pad is squeezed which might happen in a parking lot more than you expect. It might also be that vibration could set it off.

On the other hand, maybe GM changed something? I have not heard of anyone else ever having this issue but I don't have a 2012 or '13 to test.

Originally Posted by **** Jockey
You may not have completely solved your potential problem.

With Auto Lock turned off but the car has been locked...............

If you open the trunk/hatch with the button on the car or the fob and then toss your fob (in the golf bag or not) into the trunk/cargo area and close the lid, you are now locked out again.

I learned something today. I also thought that opening the hatch would unlock the car. It doesn't. ETID's problem wasn't that he waited too long before going to the door and autolock relocked it. The problem was the door never unlocked at all.

Turning off autolock does nothing to prevent locking the FOB in the trunk. If you lock the car in any way you still need the FOB near the door (or push the unlock button on the FOB) to get in. No different from a set of keys unless you don't want to lock the car at all. Personally I keep my FOB in my pocket.
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Originally Posted by ETID
I did this until one day at the golf course I left the FOB in my golf bag got ready to leave put the bag in the car closed the hatch, someone came along and asked me a question and the car locked!! Key and FOB in the golf bag. Well after getting my spare FOB (took about 1.5 hours) I shut off the auto lock feature so now when I exit the car I use the FOB to lock by pushing lock button. Sometimes you can't teach an old dog new tricks.
Wouldn't the hatch release button over the plate have opened the hatch. I have a spare key hidden under the car just in case...
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Originally Posted by flhden
Wouldn't the hatch release button over the plate have opened the hatch. I have a spare key hidden under the car just in case...
No, the hatch button by the license plate requires a fob to be in the space outside the trunk as if it were in your pocket standing there. This is the case whether the car is locked or not.


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