Is this normal?
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I have my car programmed to lock automatically when I walk away, silently. It unlocks when I'm in range, again silently. You never know it happened. I discovered it is still working when I was cleaning the inside windows, left my FOB on the garage floor and closed the door. Yep, locked inside, the car was shut down tight. I had to use the emergency door release to get out. Then all ____broke out, horn sounded, lights flashed, it is working!!
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One of my friends did something similar, only she left her fob in the house locked the garage door, got in the car, shut the door and didn't remember the emergency door release. waited 2 hours for her Husband to get home and let her out of the car. ( and before you ask she is a redhead).
The FOB does NOT talk to the car unless YOU push a button somewhere. Either a FOB button or a car button. The FOB battery would never last if it had to continually talk to the car.
OP, sorry to rain on your parade, but you have NOT solved the issue. The car does NOT go through a complete boot up preparing to start just because you walk up and try to open the door. The start-up booting only occurs AFTER the door has been opened. I'm thinking you have a misadjusted door ajar switch? You pull on the door and the switch thinks the door opened even though it didn't and the car starts into lighting things up and doing its clicky-clicky relaying under the dash. Try it again by squeezing the door pad switch instead of pulling on it. Without a FOB the only thing that should happen when you try to open the door is the red security light on the door should come on solid for a few seconds. No lights should come on inside at all.
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I have my car programmed to lock automatically when I walk away, silently. It unlocks when I'm in range, again silently. You never know it happened. I discovered it is still working when I was cleaning the inside windows, left my FOB on the garage floor and closed the door. Yep, locked inside, the car was shut down tight. I had to use the emergency door release to get out. Then all ____broke out, horn sounded, lights flashed, it is working!!
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I did this until one day at the golf course I left the FOB in my golf bag got ready to leave put the bag in the car closed the hatch, someone came along and asked me a question and the car locked!! Key and FOB in the golf bag. Well after getting my spare FOB (took about 1.5 hours) I shut off the auto lock feature so now when I exit the car I use the FOB to lock by pushing lock button. Sometimes you can't teach an old dog new tricks.
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But...I usually do not leave the car in a big lot all alone, it would hurt it's feelings!
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I have my car programmed to lock automatically when I walk away, silently. It unlocks when I'm in range, again silently. You never know it happened. I discovered it is still working when I was cleaning the inside windows, left my FOB on the garage floor and closed the door. Yep, locked inside, the car was shut down tight. I had to use the emergency door release to get out. Then all ____broke out, horn sounded, lights flashed, it is working!!
Read post #24 for an explanation.
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I hope that GM scraps this C6 fob junk on the C7. Any time that a key fob generates as much conversation as this C6 junk, it is an insane design by definition.
There is some hope. It appears that GM at least had enough sense to get rid of the C6 knee operated light switch. More insanity, hopefully gone forever.
There is some hope. It appears that GM at least had enough sense to get rid of the C6 knee operated light switch. More insanity, hopefully gone forever.
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I hope that GM scraps this C6 fob junk on the C7. Any time that a key fob generates as much conversation as this C6 junk, it is an insane design by definition.
There is some hope. It appears that GM at least had enough sense to get rid of the C6 knee operated light switch. More insanity, hopefully gone forever.
There is some hope. It appears that GM at least had enough sense to get rid of the C6 knee operated light switch. More insanity, hopefully gone forever.
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OP, sorry to rain on your parade, but you have NOT solved the issue. The car does NOT go through a complete boot up preparing to start just because you walk up and try to open the door. The start-up booting only occurs AFTER the door has been opened. I'm thinking you have a misadjusted door ajar switch? You pull on the door and the switch thinks the door opened even though it didn't and the car starts into lighting things up and doing its clicky-clicky relaying under the dash. Try it again by squeezing the door pad switch instead of pulling on it. Without a FOB the only thing that should happen when you try to open the door is the red security light on the door should come on solid for a few seconds. No lights should come on inside at all.
So today I went out to the garage absent my FOB, reached into the cutout and gently squeezed the door pad switch w/o pulling on the door. Sure enough, the interior lights came on and stayed on for about ten minutes...
I guess I'll mention this next time I take the C6 in for servicing. Not a big deal really as the car stays in a locked garage and I am pretty sure there are no covert door pad squeezers lurking about rural South Carolina...
#34
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I agree that it is not particularly important but I can confirm that it is not normal behavior. I just locked my Vert in the garage, then came back 10 minutes later with no fob. When I squeezed the door pad, the only reaction was the red LED on the door went on solid and a relay clicked under the dash. No interior lights went on at all. Interesting.
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You can test this by checking how long it takes for the interior lights to go off after you close the door. It should take 30 seconds to a minute...no more. If it is more, then the lights are being kept on by the button having been pushed.
Last edited by cclive; 01-21-2013 at 06:17 PM.
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I did this until one day at the golf course I left the FOB in my golf bag got ready to leave put the bag in the car closed the hatch, someone came along and asked me a question and the car locked!! Key and FOB in the golf bag. Well after getting my spare FOB (took about 1.5 hours) I shut off the auto lock feature so now when I exit the car I use the FOB to lock by pushing lock button. Sometimes you can't teach an old dog new tricks.
With Auto Lock turned off but the car has been locked...............
If you open the trunk/hatch with the button on the car or the fob and then toss your fob (in the golf bag or not) into the trunk/cargo area and close the lid, you are now locked out again.
Last edited by Knob Jockey; 01-21-2013 at 09:32 PM.
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On the other hand, maybe GM changed something? I have not heard of anyone else ever having this issue but I don't have a 2012 or '13 to test.
You may not have completely solved your potential problem.
With Auto Lock turned off but the car has been locked...............
If you open the trunk/hatch with the button on the car or the fob and then toss your fob (in the golf bag or not) into the trunk/cargo area and close the lid, you are now locked out again.
With Auto Lock turned off but the car has been locked...............
If you open the trunk/hatch with the button on the car or the fob and then toss your fob (in the golf bag or not) into the trunk/cargo area and close the lid, you are now locked out again.
Turning off autolock does nothing to prevent locking the FOB in the trunk. If you lock the car in any way you still need the FOB near the door (or push the unlock button on the FOB) to get in. No different from a set of keys unless you don't want to lock the car at all. Personally I keep my FOB in my pocket.
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I did this until one day at the golf course I left the FOB in my golf bag got ready to leave put the bag in the car closed the hatch, someone came along and asked me a question and the car locked!! Key and FOB in the golf bag. Well after getting my spare FOB (took about 1.5 hours) I shut off the auto lock feature so now when I exit the car I use the FOB to lock by pushing lock button. Sometimes you can't teach an old dog new tricks.
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No, the hatch button by the license plate requires a fob to be in the space outside the trunk as if it were in your pocket standing there. This is the case whether the car is locked or not.