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Old Apr 9, 2013 | 11:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Pinky...
The two quart suggestion was when I said filling over 2 quarts extra was about the limit.
Right, I do recall that and commented on it at the time. I do wonder if there is any kind of objective means of determining just what the threshold in fact is. GM makes such a big deal about not going above the hatch marks it makes me think the clearance between correct oil level and the crank isn't very much.

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Originally Posted by iclick
Right, I do recall that and commented on it at the time. I do wonder if there is any kind of objective means of determining just what the threshold in fact is. GM makes such a big deal about not going above the hatch marks it makes me think the clearance between correct oil level and the crank isn't very much.
My personal opinion.....
GM or any manufacturer will make a big thing out of anything (i.e. nothing) to not have to warranty something. This is NOT to suggest 1qt more is going to hurt your motor even driving around on the street. If one were to overfill 2-3qts I can see that becoming an issue quickly but that doesnt even seem half way possible unless you forget to drain 3qts prior to filling.

I've been running 7qts in mine for almost 4yrs now. I have a LS2 with C6Z oil cooler and completely stock oiling system otherwise. No issues at all and it sees lots of hwy driving, street driving and high rpm driving.
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My personal opinion.....
I think you're right and I'm going to just use six quarts as per the book and not worry about the level. If six quarts was a problem they wouldn't use it as the spec for this car.
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I changed my oil just last week. 5.5 qts. with filter. The oil level on the dipstick is right at the top edge of the crosshatch section. (Full).
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Old Apr 10, 2013 | 05:56 PM
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Regarding the burnt-oil smell, I got it today at an intersection and pulled over within a minute. I couldn't smell anything from the exhaust nor under the engine compartment. The smell seems confined to the interior of the car, has never been a strong odor when present, and is only apparent when idling and stationary. Not sure what to conclude from this.
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I think you're right and I'm going to just use six quarts as per the book and not worry about the level. If six quarts was a problem they wouldn't use it as the spec for this car.
If you do not let it drain 30 to 45mins your are going to have extra oil when adding by the quart. Go by the stick, the top of the hatched area is heavy enough. That's 30 to 45 mins when hot all night if cold! This was a heavy topic when the LS1 came out in the C5

Engines that pump too much oil to the top without draining back fast enough run out of oil to the crank. Small block chev was the worst with roller cams and such and did not do any better with deep pans and more oil. The cure was oil restrictors in the oil gallery that fed the lifter bores. A lot of us learned this the hard way!
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Old Apr 10, 2013 | 07:14 PM
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Originally Posted by VET4LES
My 05 manual Z51 came from the factory 1/2 qt over the full mark. Picked it up at the museum. I have done all the oil changes and every time it's the same. The manual states to add a quart on track days so I'm sure a little over isn't going to hurt anything.
ditto..my 09 z51 m6 is exactly the same..about a 1/2 inch over with 6qts..
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If you do not let it drain 30 to 45mins your are going to have extra oil when adding by the quart. Go by the stick, the top of the hatched area is heavy enough. That's 30 to 45 mins when hot all night if cold!
That's a good point that I hadn't thought of. I don't know how long the dealer let it drain, but I'll keep this in mind when I start doing it beginning with the next change.
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I can only imagine how many members thought this thread would of been a no brainier.

I know I did until my last oil change.
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FWIW, I've been running a full quart over in my LS1 for the past 9 years and 100,000 miles and it hasn't caused a problem at all. I would confidently do the same with an LS2 as well. My take on it is that if the manual says it is safe to add that extra oil when racing, then obviously that extra quart is not going to cause the crank to slosh through the oil. And another point, you would know when that occurs, you simply check the dipstick immediately after shutdown and if you see tiny bubbles on it, that indicates aeration.
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The drain plug is on drivers side of the pan it helps if passenger side is up a few more inches and level front to rear to get old oil out
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Its not just aeration we need to be concerned with, it will tax the job of gaskets, seals, pc system, exhaust cats and more I cant think of right now!
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I always drain when hot but have never waited 30-45 mins to get practically nothing from the drain plug. Seems like wasted time to wait THAT long to me. To each their own.
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Originally Posted by Patman
FWIW, I've been running a full quart over in my LS1 for the past 9 years and 100,000 miles and it hasn't caused a problem at all.
Well, the manual says you've caused serious engine damage. You should be very worried.

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Old Apr 10, 2013 | 11:18 PM
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Originally Posted by LEAVINU
I always drain when hot but have never waited 30-45 mins to get practically nothing from the drain plug. Seems like wasted time to wait THAT long to me. To each their own.
Same for me: Drain hot, but plug it up when the flow slows to a drip.
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