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Old May 4, 2013 | 12:01 PM
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Write up a contract, have your friend sell his vette to you, register it. Go get your corvette. Sell the other corvette back to your friend. Treat your friend to a really really nice dinner with the 3k you saved.
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Old May 4, 2013 | 12:05 PM
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Obviously have a "friend" transfer his corvette in your name is not honest, but it has already been proven by people on this thread IT DOES NOT HAVE TO BE IN YOUR NAME. Maybe it's up to the dealer to decide what constitutes "your" vette, maybe not. But if there is a vette that is your immediate families car, i'm sure that it is ok in their book. They are obviously trying to weed out guys like the OP who are trying to scam, and not the family that are corvette enthusiasts and have a vette in one families name but another member wants a vette. If your wife owns a vette in her name and you live together, it's still YOUR vette (at least half is....)

Also, if a scam HAPPENS to get by, nobody's going to ever go back and check the validity of it so there's no criminality there...

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Old May 4, 2013 | 12:34 PM
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You don't need to have a registered vette. The requirements are a title even if the car is off the road and unregistered. You still OWN A VETTE. You can use the registration in your name, because technically everyone with a loan really is NOT the owner until final payment is made. In short you if you have title to a basket case you get the rebate. So its either title or registration to qualify.

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Old May 4, 2013 | 12:41 PM
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a dealer once told me i could have my brother in law's name on the title along with mine and after the purchase have his name taken off for only a couple hundred bucks. i didn't want to go thru the motion so i just paid the 3 grand.
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Old May 4, 2013 | 01:59 PM
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I just went thru this a month ago. I sold my C5 privately one week before buying a new GS. Mike from Criswell said to just keep a copy of the registration and that was good enough. I had the same issue you did, needed the loyalty & trade in value wasn't enough to make the numbers work. Maybe you can sell your car privately for more money?
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Old May 4, 2013 | 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Jimmy52
kind of sounds like Wimpy telling Popeye, "I'll gladly pay you Tuesday for a hamburger today" deal something just isn't right there
So this is the way our Gooberment works - so what is the problem?

Don't forget that if you transfer title, you might have to pay sales tax and there would go your $3k savings. I say just go to a forum vendor and get a better deal in the end.
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Old May 4, 2013 | 02:24 PM
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I might be reading this wrong but I don't think the OP has a Corvette, I think he's trying to do an end-around to get the $3000 Loyalty Rebate....

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Old May 4, 2013 | 02:58 PM
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The car has to be TITLED in your name, and with your household address. Registration requirements vary from state to state, but it's based on the title. Not worth the risk man. Much harder than just getting added to somebody's GM card.
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Old May 4, 2013 | 06:05 PM
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Is the OP serious? Total lack of ethics. GM does audit purchases. If someone came in with a fresh registration and two different names on it then I would start to wonder.

Heck even selling GM card points is not that ethical. Just hurts the actual customers that earns them.
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Old May 4, 2013 | 06:11 PM
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Originally Posted by haljensen
"Must have a Corvette registered in your name".

What's hard to understand about that statement? Look up the meaning of the term "Loyalty".

Then to ask on a public Forum how to lie, cheat and steal $3,000? I hope you don't ever buy a 'Vette.
You know I do appreciate your opinion and I wish you would go back and read my post I was not asking to lie, cheat, and steal, or anything that would cause harm to anyone. I was asking for clarification. If it was as easy as putting a vette on your insurance or what ever at your house, wow there is $3000 on your deal. Sure would make a deal easier to do at least in my opinion. I am assuming $3000 is easy to come by for you so please send it my way and I will not have to lie, steal, and cheat.

I have been a member of this site for well over 6 years I lost my password and resigned last year. I have always found many different opinions on all forums but it amazes me how people have to be rude and jerks and only a few. Never would they do this to your face. I always like to assist others in the hobby I love of automobiles, if it is something as easy as to say "hey that is not right or you know you might do it this way" or allowing people to use my shop. I am very sorry for asking the question and offending anyone on here that was defiantly not my intention, I was merely trying to understand and clarify if I did this was this would this work. Gray areas are everywhere and I would now assume everyone on here follows every rule and law 100% black and white. I sure know those front license plates on all of the Texas cars are sure nice.

For everyone who did answer and not so rudely, I appreciate your assistance. I had a very nice GM employee PM me to explain the fine print and what could and could not be done. Seems you can do some things to help you out legally.
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Old May 4, 2013 | 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by vig1116
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Also, if a scam HAPPENS to get by, nobody's going to ever go back and check the validity of it so there's no criminality there...
So it's not a crime unless you get caught?
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Old May 4, 2013 | 06:24 PM
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It is like all programs, once you start letting people in that are not entitled to it then the people that are suffer in the end.
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Old May 4, 2013 | 06:25 PM
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Originally Posted by scnhra
.... I have a friend who would gladly change his insurance to my address for me to get a discount if that would work. ............
That sounds like a request for help from a friend to cheat. The criteria seems simple enough to me, if you or immediate gamily own a 'Vette you get the Loyalty discount.

Not; If I can fake some paperwork I can save $3,000.
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Old May 4, 2013 | 06:28 PM
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Sounds shaky to me.

In criminal law, fraud is intentional deception made for personal gain.

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Old May 4, 2013 | 06:47 PM
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Originally Posted by haljensen
That sounds like a request for help from a friend to cheat. The criteria seems simple enough to me, if you or immediate gamily own a 'Vette you get the Loyalty discount.

Not; If I can fake some paperwork I can save $3,000.
By the way it does not have to be in your name or immediate family. Fine Print just read it. Clarification is a wonderful thing when it comes from someone who knows.
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Old May 4, 2013 | 06:56 PM
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I bet prison would be a good place to get answers on how to beat Gm on loyalty but doesn t belong here
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Old May 4, 2013 | 07:13 PM
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Originally Posted by scnhra
By the way it does not have to be in your name or immediate family. Fine Print just read it. Clarification is a wonderful thing when it comes from someone who knows.
I don't need to read the fine print, I'm not trying to scam GM. You've admitted you don't qualify for the $3,000 discount but continue to try to find a way around the rules. Why don't you go buy a Mustang?
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Old May 4, 2013 | 07:24 PM
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Originally Posted by haljensen
I don't need to read the fine print, I'm not trying to scam GM. You've admitted you don't qualify for the $3,000 discount but continue to try to find a way around the rules. Why don't you go buy a Mustang?
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Old May 4, 2013 | 08:06 PM
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Do you think GM actually cares about people circumventing the 3k loyalty. Their just happy to sell the cars at this point. Just like people selling their GM points, if it sells a car again their happy. When I just traded in my '12 coupe for my '13 GS the dealer didn't ask me one question about my paperwork. Everything was done over the phone and the $3k loyalty was just applied with all the other rebates. Nothing was ever mentioned or assumed the car I was trading in was in my name ( it wasn't ) and I just picked up the new GS and that was it. I personally think GM doesn't even check to see if the loyalty issued is legit. If the dealer gives it it's good enough for them. Believe me GM is not gonna lose sleep over a couple of misguided $3k loyalty rebates.
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Old May 4, 2013 | 09:08 PM
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Originally Posted by VET4LES
Sounds shaky to me.

In criminal law, fraud is intentional deception made for personal gain.

That's what I said.
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