Nitrogen?
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Excellent post on the subject (I didn't want to quote the entire long post, but figured the above pretty much sums it up). 
And yet there are still people who will ignore the facts, argue with you because you haven't used it yourself, or just simply don't want to listen to science and facts because it conflicts with their beliefs.
And yet there are still people who will ignore the facts, argue with you because you haven't used it yourself, or just simply don't want to listen to science and facts because it conflicts with their beliefs.
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It's small, filled with liquid CO2 which lasts forever when it's turned into gas and bottle fill costs $10 or so.
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I'm not a naysayer. I've had nitrogen in a few cars (not C6) when I bought tires at Costco. My perception is the tires seem to hold the correct pressure much longer than when they just have air inflation. The only negative I can see, since there is no added cost involved, is Costco puts green caps on the valve stems - They are Butt Ugly but easily changed.
Maybe its the moderate temperature here, tires with Nitrogen filled are almost maintenance free - twice a year, at the most.
On my other car and motorcycle, monthly topped off with compressed air.
Yea, Costco here is great and they let me do my own refills.
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Try living somewhere with seasons and you'll need to drop or increase the cold tire inflation pressure every month or so even if you use nitrogen because the temperature changes have the exact same effect.
Even if you lose all of the ~21% that isn't nitrogen, and then refill with dry air, the result is a mixture in your tire which is 95.6% nitrogen. This point is hit after a total loss of about 10 PSI over time, without ever having done a nitrogen fill.
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Tim, people everywhere are the same, like to talk, all think they've got the right answer - right or wrong - whether they have actual experience or not.
I do like one thing you said to me once "lets agree on being disagree".
I do like one thing you said to me once "lets agree on being disagree".
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Back in the 90's my daughters raced karts and I needed a source of air for the air tools and that is what got me started on it and I just keep refilling the bottle.
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I guess I could agree with both sides on this. Would I pay to have nitrogen put in my tires, no, but I do put in because I have a bottle in my garage that I take the track. My last bottle lasted 10 years before I had to have it filled.
Back in the 90's my daughters raced karts and I needed a source of air for the air tools and that is what got me started on it and I just keep refilling the bottle.
Back in the 90's my daughters raced karts and I needed a source of air for the air tools and that is what got me started on it and I just keep refilling the bottle.
But Costco is less than a mile from my house and free.
And after several years of dependable result, consistent repeated side by side comparison with compressed air fills, Nitrogen is without a doubt.
I asked Costco if they would charge up my spare tank w/Nitrogen, that, they would not. I am too cheap to buy Nitrogen for conversion. My other car use non stock sized tires and Costco will not sell/install non stock sized or motorcycle tires, so I couldn't get away from more maintenance with my other car and motorcycle.
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From: "No matter where you go... there you are"...."You cannot drive a dollar bill". ...and remember... "D
Once again I will add to what Vic has stated....If Nitrogen is close, handy, free and convenient....go for it.....If it it is not close, not handy, not free and not convenient...then don't use it....but one always has the personal choice to go for it...and everyone certainly can have their opinion... it does no harm....so users go for it....non users peace.......but I will admit there are some pretty savy posts on the subject....and even some good chemistry lessions......BUT IT ALL BOILS DOWN TO PERSONAL PREFERENCE....and that my friends will not change too many minds.....
It's free and I have never had a problem with it.
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Aircraft with braked tires use nitrogen because an FAA Airworthiness Directive says to use it. That directive was enacted because during certain very-high-heat situations (which virtually no automobile will ever encounter) the oxygen reacts with volatile gases given off by the overheated tire, resulting in a fire.
But, then, what do Boeing and the FAA know?
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From: "No matter where you go... there you are"...."You cannot drive a dollar bill". ...and remember... "D
Good point scissors....and I like your thought process.....but again I will defer to my post #55....no harm and no foul