Skip shift
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Drifting
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Skip shift
Is there any preference for the skip shift eliminator between the one that connects at the transmission or the one that goes in the fuse box? Pros, cons, no real difference? Have to buy one for the wife's Grand Sport. Could I rob the one off of her old C5 with no issues? Thanks
Melting Slicks
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I have done both. The skip shift eliminator in my 2005 and the blown smart fuse on my 2013 GS. They both work. The smart fuse is cheaper and easier to install. I picked up a pack of 6 smart fuses for $2.
Also, if you ever get a tune you can have CAGS tuned out.
Also, if you ever get a tune you can have CAGS tuned out.
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Could someone please give me some more information about this fuse option? I was planning to buy a skip-shift eliminator, but wasn't aware there were two types. And what is meant by "blown smart fuse" here?
Melting Slicks
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Take one (doesn't matter the amps) and blow it. I used my car battery charger to blow it.
Then replace the stock fuse with the blown smart fuse. Here you see a fuse that is "glowing" indicating that it is a blown smart fuse. Done.
*** Please consult your manual in case the fuse location is different than the image.
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Thanks so much for taking time to post those great photos.
At the risk of being flamed for ignorance, I'll ask how you blow a fuse. And I'll also ask why I can't just blow the fuse that I assume is already in that location (rather than buying a new one and blowing it).
And is that fuse only for the skip-shift function? That is, blowing that fuse won't affect anything else, and won't cause any error messages to appear, etc.?
At the risk of being flamed for ignorance, I'll ask how you blow a fuse. And I'll also ask why I can't just blow the fuse that I assume is already in that location (rather than buying a new one and blowing it).
And is that fuse only for the skip-shift function? That is, blowing that fuse won't affect anything else, and won't cause any error messages to appear, etc.?
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Drifting
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And I'll also ask why I can't just blow the fuse that I assume is already in that location (rather than buying a new one and blowing it).
Think I know which way to go now. Thanks for the reply.
Drifting
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A regular fuse won't work, it will set off a check engine light. These fuses have a LED in there that has enough resistance to keep the CEL off, but disable the CAGS system.
Simple to blow it, just carefully short it across a battery, some guys use a battery charger. Others take a small drill & open up the fuse link. The choice is yours.
I used one before, it worked for awhile and then failed. If that happens, just turn it around in the socket, the other LED will perform the eliminator function for you (there are 2 LEDS in there).
Simple to blow it, just carefully short it across a battery, some guys use a battery charger. Others take a small drill & open up the fuse link. The choice is yours.
I used one before, it worked for awhile and then failed. If that happens, just turn it around in the socket, the other LED will perform the eliminator function for you (there are 2 LEDS in there).
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Pro
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Thanks. So I just touch one leg of the fuse to one battery terminal and use a wire to go from the other battery terminal to the other fuse leg? And the 12V battery will short it out? Does the wire need to be any certain gauge?
I apologize for my lack of electrical knowledge.
I apologize for my lack of electrical knowledge.
Drifting
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From: western NY
Yeah, just short the fuse across the pos & neg battery leads. You don't need jumper cables or anything that large, it will zap instantly anyways. I may have even used my battery jump box to pop the one I used.
For a 10 amp fuse, a 12 or 14 ga wire would be great.
For a 10 amp fuse, a 12 or 14 ga wire would be great.
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The (copyright 2008) picture Homer3D posted isn't his; in fact it was lifted from here:
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Racer
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Another idea...
Sounds good to me but can't confirm it until spring when it comes out of storage and the mod work is completed.
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I accidentally trigger mine about twice a year. To me, not worth worrying about, and much better than paying a few thousand bucks in tax.
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The government doesn't require it. In order to avoid a gas-guzzler tax the government requires a certain gas mileage under certain conditions. GM has found CAGS to be the easiest and least intrusive method of accomplishing this.
I accidentally trigger mine about twice a year. To me, not worth worrying about, and much better than paying a few thousand bucks in tax.
I accidentally trigger mine about twice a year. To me, not worth worrying about, and much better than paying a few thousand bucks in tax.
Melting Slicks
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I personally think "skip shift" is a safety hazard in a situation where one might need to accelerate out of harm's way, just as it activates!
I used the blown smart fuse and it's worked perfectly for the past 4-5 years.
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What happens when the LED of the smart fuse burns out? Will I get a message on the dashboard? I know I can turn the fuse around to use the other LED, but I'm just wondering how long the LED will last and what will happen when it dies.
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Smart fuse LEDs rarely burn out; I've been using the same one for 6 years. If yours does burn out, the car will throw a P0803 during the second consecutive trip (aka run cycle). The code will reset the first run cycle after you correct the problem. (DTC history persists for 40 run cycles before clearing.)