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Old Jan 22, 2014 | 12:32 PM
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I work in a building downtown that owns a parking garage where I park my vette each day. This past Friday my car was involved in a hit-and-run by someone in that garage. Luckily there was an eyewitness that observed everything, took down the pertinent info (tag #, vehicle make/model, etc) and made a report with our building security. The vehicle turned out to be a rental car and I am currently persuing a claim but told the claim adjuster on the rental car side won't be in until Monday.

My question is if anyone has been in a similar situation and was able to obtain a diminished value settlement. There's no doubt that this accident will now show up in a carfax or similar vehicle history report and will hurt the resale value of my car. This is uncharted territory for me. Thanks.
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Old Jan 22, 2014 | 12:58 PM
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That's pretty minimal damage. If you plan to sell privately you could mitigate any problems by simply taking lots of pics to document exactly how little damage there is, keep detailed repair receipts and make sure it's properly repaired at a "good" shop that knows how to repair it. My opinion only.

Here are a couple previous discussions on DV to read while waiting for new responses:

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-c...hed-value.html

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-c...hed-value.html
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Old Jan 22, 2014 | 02:56 PM
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It's not worth risking a hit on carfax that could cost you thousands. Get ahold of the rental's driver and ask for cash inleau of you reporting a hit and run to the cops.
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Old Jan 22, 2014 | 03:33 PM
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It's not worth risking a hit on carfax that could cost you thousands. Get ahold of the rental's driver and ask for cash inleau of you reporting a hit and run to the cops.
Unfortunately that is not an option since the car was rented by a corporation which carried the insurance and will not supply the name of the driver due to privacy laws. I did, however, learn today that they fired the guy over this incident. I sort of feel bad for the guy but actions do have consequences...
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Old Jan 22, 2014 | 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Jitsu
Unfortunately that is not an option since the car was rented by a corporation which carried the insurance and will not supply the name of the driver due to privacy laws. I did, however, learn today that they fired the guy over this incident. I sort of feel bad for the guy but actions do have consequences...
At least take plenty of photos, document the damage, and place them next to your vehicle title.
Will be useful to explain if any resulting reports come up and discuss any discrepancies pending any sales.
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Old Jan 22, 2014 | 04:48 PM
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Three years ago I was hit on the drivers side on I24 near Nashville, Tn. The damage was from rear quarter panel to the front quarter panel and it looked much worse than it actually turned out. No broken panels or other parts, just a large black tire mark completely down the drivers side and a scarred front wheel. In any event the body shop charged $7,300 to inspect, adjust the panels, replace the front wheel, check for alignment and clear coat the drivers side. Now about the diminished value, the other insurance company completely paid for the repairs plus I insisted on $10,000 diminished value, we settled on $6,000. Keep in mind, that insurance co will not offer DV, you must insist and if necessary threaten sueing, they will come around and meet you half way. Good luck! BTW, I was not concerned about a carfax report, I was concerned about being treated fairly besides my vette is for life!
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Old Jan 23, 2014 | 03:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Jitsu
I sort of feel bad for the guy but actions do have consequences...
Yeah I wouldn't feel bad for that guy for a second. If he had did the right thing and stopped and left a note or tried to contact you in some shape or form, he wouldn't be in this situation to begin with. He's reaping what he sowed. I find it quite interesting that he isn't having some type of charges pressed against them for the hit-and-run.

As for the car itself, I would do as others have said and just very strongly document all of the damage that was done with a camera. It doesn't seem to be much and I really don't think it will subtract that much from the value of the car.
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Old Jan 23, 2014 | 06:07 AM
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Originally Posted by RicK T
That's pretty minimal damage. If you plan to sell privately you could mitigate any problems by simply taking lots of pics to document exactly how little damage there is, keep detailed repair receipts and make sure it's properly repaired at a "good" shop that knows how to repair it. My opinion only.

Here are a couple previous discussions on DV to read while waiting for new responses:

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-c...hed-value.html

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-c...hed-value.html
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Some states don't allow for Diminished Value, also called Diminutive Value. In any event, the opposing insurance company will put the burden on you to prove the loss and then expect the right to inspect the repair. If the repairs are done correctly and no signs of damage exists it will become harder to claim the loss.

In the event that your repairs are 'A1' pursue 'Inherent Diminished Value" which is the economic loss simply because it's be in an accident and people view that as a lessor quality vehicle.

This is info that I have researched due to an accident with my other vehicle. Also look into 'Loss of Use' which is rental, but you really don't need to rent a vehicle to obtain this. I made over $300 on this alone by driving my own vehicle.
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Old Jan 23, 2014 | 11:05 AM
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All good information, thanks guys.

I have researched to confirm that Oklahoma does in fact allow for diminished value. I realize the damage is minimal compared to more serious accidents. However, it is still an accident that will be attached to the car forever and, as you know, certainly comes into play in resale value and/or trade in values. Everyone looks for something as a bargaining chip in negotiations to get a low price and this would certainly allow for that. The car had a perfect history until this incident.

Since I'm going to have to get this fixed I'm entertaining the idea of doing the ZO6 widebody kit...

Thanks again for info/opinions.
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Document everything. Pictures before and after.

My last car, G35 had a CarFax crash and repair. It took me an hour to find the repair.
I drove the car for two years, 90K miles.
When I got rid of the car they gave me 2K more than I was expecting.
CarFax is not as reliable as they make it out to be.
I personally don't use CarFax as my deciding factor when buying cars.
But if I see a problem on the CarFax, I do investigate to see what was damaged and how good/quality the repair was.
When buying a car the purchaser should be going over the car, as well.
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Old Jan 23, 2014 | 11:32 AM
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You should push for the rental company to cover you in the same way they screw folks when their car is damaged. Ever read the fine print on what they can hit you with if you return a car with damage?
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I'm no expert on the subject but I know some auto insurance policies do not cover claims for diminished value....diminished value is often excluded. The last time I read my policy I noted diminished value was excluded (and it's excellent coverage with a 'good' national company). I think it's just one little thing they could exclude to help their bottom line. A claim for diminished value might fall under liability when you're going after an at-fault party though. It might be worth checking if and how such a claim might be covered with the at-fault party. Good luck.
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Originally Posted by Jitsu
Since I'm going to have to get this fixed I'm entertaining the idea of doing the ZO6 widebody kit...
I'm guessing that would pretty much eliminate a DV claim.

As others have said you can try, but with damage that minimal you won't get much for DV.
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Old Jan 23, 2014 | 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Steve_R
I'm guessing that would pretty much eliminate a DV claim.

As others have said you can try, but with damage that minimal you won't get much for DV.
You might be right but I'd be surprised if this is the case. After all, an accident is an accident and is a black mark on a vehicle's history irregardless of the dollar amount associated with the damage. I don't know if CarFax or other vehicle history reports state extent of damage or dollar amounts required to fix. I don't think they do. So a potential buyer will only see that it was in an accident and oftentimes is enough for them to walk.
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