I need to update the navigation disc in my 08 coupe. Is there any alternative to spending a fortune at the Chevy dealer?

 

I got a one year old one several years ago. A forum member gave me his after he bought a new one.

 

Piracy is not condoned on this site!!!!!!

On the other hand, how hard is to to do a google search for "gm nav disc 22944166 iso" to down load the ISO so you have a extra copy of the disc you already own to make a back up.

From there, it's only a matter of using Img burn with a Verbatim DVD R DL blank disc, making sure that the booktype is set to DVD Rom in Img burn, and burn the ISO to A DVD disc so you have a extra copy of your own disc to use in the car while safe keeping the master outside the car.

 

I have the disc that came with m 2012 GS Coup. I replaced it with newer version.

I will make you a good deal.

Contact me at gtoneyjr@sbcglobal.net

 

GM might also like to know the names of all these people who will sell or even give away copies of their products. Here is part of the legal agreement you accepted when you first used the disc.

 

I sent you an email. Thanks.

 

I'm not one who condones piracy but, that being said, why is GM pricing their disks at the cost of many other manufactures GPS units? For $200 I can get a Garmin with free lifetime traffic/maps updates!! Sometimes the bean counters have it all wrong!!!

 

Then all GM needs to do is look on ebay and find thousands of people selling their nav disc. What are they gonna do?

 

yeah...I agree. that said... anyone else willing to assist me with acquiring one please pm me.
thanks

 

Volume, volume, volume. Garmin can make $10 each on 50,000,000 units and collect a nice profit. GM has less than 50,000 total units that these will work with. I image they would be happy to sell 5,000 updates a year. But I would agree that GM should be able to roll the update price into the initial cost as Garmin does and as GM did with OnStar hardware when people wouldn't buy it as an option because it was so expensive. Most people don't really need updates for many years so making them "free" by selling them as a package deal up front makes customers think they are getting a better deal.

BTW, I've owned Garmins for almost 20 years and it was only relatively recently that they rolled the update price into the units. Garmin used to charge $199 for an update disc.

 

Great answer and good suggestion for GM about front loading the cost. Thanks.

 

Like inkjet printers. They sell you the printer cheap then kill you with the cost of cheap ink.

 

Yes, exactly like inkjet printers, if the printers were also really expensive. The Nav in the C6 was a $1750 for many of the years, and my inkjet printer/ copier/fax machine was $120 and I got the more expensive deluxe model

 

The law states you may have a backup copy made for personal use.

However this can be made by anyone for you as long as you have the original.

A little bit in the gray area

 

Yes, you or anyone else can make copies. I never have an original DVD or CD in any of my cars. Originals are stored in a temperature controlled area so another copy can be made when the one in the car melts or gets scratched or... What you agreed to was that you can NOT let anyone else use the DVD unless you sell the nav unit to them. It doesn't say you can't make a copy for your own use. It says that no one else can use it themselves or gain any interest or title to the product which is always retained by TANA. When you give GM $200 you are renting the product for an indefinite period, not buying it. You don't own it so you can't sell or give it away with the explicit exception that you can include it with the sale of the nav unit for which it was purchased. That doesn't sound at all gray to me.

 

I should start by saying that the jury is still out on this. I was using version 3.00 and wanted to get updated maps. Like you all I was shocked by the price of the latest version, p/n 22944166. So I searched the internet.............

I ran across carsnavigation.com and purchased the above mentioned p/n for $85. I could have purchased p/n 22820294 (v 8.0) on this same web site for $79. I received the DVD and have inserted it into the unit and it seems to work however there are a few things that seem strange to me.

First the DVD shipped from eastern Europe. Second the case and the DVD have different graphics than what I see on gmnavdisc.com. When I questioned this I was told that what I received was a 'service' copy. One that potential customers can try at a dealership before purchasing. Maybe consistent with the above the disc I received is v 9.0. The same p/n on the GM web site is referred to as v.2013. I used the chat feature on the GM web site and they did not want to talk about v 9.0 and wanted to know where I purchased it.

On the v 3.0 DVD I can see the files were created back in 2004. The v 9.0 disc has files created in 2012.

I have a basic question for anyone. When a nav DVD is inserted the first time are files actually copied to the hardware from the disc? If so then is a disc was already inserted and then a newer version is inserted and the files being updated on the hardware?

 

The system simply accesses the data on the disc, no data is permanently moved from the disc to the unit. If the disc shipped from eastern europe, it is unlikely to be a legitimate disc, but if it works, then it works. I would expect that it is a burned copy rather than a pressed commercial disc.

I also use a copy in my car as it is easy to reach in with the top down and eject either or both discs from the NAV unit without turning on the car.

 

Requests/responses for illegal DVDs removed.

 

Mine was a certified used car. The disc was bad so the dealer gave me a new one. So I have the factory 2013 version. It is better than the 2 disc set up. I still dont like the system though.

 

I don't buy into the idea that GM isn't making a huge amount of money on these disks or that low volume is what drives the cost up.

Each year they ship tens or hundreds of thousands of vehicles with GPS units. Customers wouldn't be happy if they bought a brand new car with an outdated navigation database, so they HAVE to generate a new navigation disk pretty much every year. Since they can't count on selling upgrades to owners of prior year cars, the cost for this upgrade has to be allocated toward the new units. The disk is not corvette specific, so this cost is spread across quite a few vehicles.

In addition, the underlying data is not generated for just for these vehicles, it's most likely used for many other vehicles and GPS units.

They're already building new disks and the cost of creating the disk should be covered by the new vehicles that ship with that disk. The expenses behind selling an upgrade disk should be the cost of cutting the disk, any royalties for the data (which should be pretty low when one considers how cheap stand alone GPS units sell for these days), and the distribution costs. It seems like there's a hefty markup between the cost of creating an upgrade disk and what they charge for them.

Granted, they're entitled to sell these things for whatever they want, but clearly consumers are not happy with being sold a very expensive GPS system and then paying what many view as an excessive price to update the GPS database.