New Recall
#61
Race Director
Man, that's a huge expense just because a car might end up in CA. I would think they'd get a notice from CA DMV of every new C6 registration and send them a letter of recall. Haven't all these cars been passing CA emissions test up till now? What changed?
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#63
Le Mans Master
My 08 has manifolds, cats and X pipe from an 09 ZR1 and they will not be getting their hands on my car. My Vette was born in Oregon, I wonder. No headlight recall and no cat recall. I am very happy with how it runs now besides they are probably only looking for stock LS3 Catalytic Converters but if they would like to give them to me I would be happy to take them, in the box.
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I checked and NU5 code is in the glove box.
So apparently, in CA or not, the recall is for cars with the that code.
Either way, now that I know what it's about, and apparently voluntary, I'll be looking into not having it done.
If the car ever ends up in CA, let them worry about it
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Not only that, how many 08 & 09's are out there with over 100,000 miles on the clock and we've never heard of this being a CAT failure problem or pollution problem for that matter
#66
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Just received my "voluntary" emission recall. I don't understand why one would not want to receive two new catalytic converters for free? Mine are now 6 years old and I am sure they would cost a great deal to replace. Any thoughts?
#67
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I also just received this recall notice. I'm in AZ and car was bought in AZ. I'm all for getting "free stuff" even though I'm not a Democrat (smile), but I worry about the ECU flash. I feel CA standards only turn the screws down, never up, but that's just my thinking. My car passes emission tests here so what to do? 'Vette has 15K on it, so life of cats should not be an issue yet.
#68
Race Director
Now with the OBDII testing how would one know what is coming out the tail pipe. This test just test for readiness of the systems.
Is there a cat failure sensor, or high emissions sensor?
Is there a cat failure sensor, or high emissions sensor?
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#70
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If GM is replacing the existing catalytic converters on my 08 that's not a big deal, but if they are adding additional cats, like the later years have, then I will pass. As far as the ECM update, I will just bring my laptop and flash back my tune before I leave the lot.
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This sentence is on the recall notice, so that's probably why it's voluntary.
"The California Air Resources Board (CARB) requires vehicle emission recalls be completed prior to California registration renewal. Uncorrected emission recalls will result in the inability to renew your California vehicle registration."
Now I'm guessing there will soon be some modded CA cars for sale to either unsuspecting CA buyers or out-of-state purchasers.
Although I would have loved/wanted to live in SoCal in the 60's, I'm sure glad when I left OH that I chose AZ.
"The California Air Resources Board (CARB) requires vehicle emission recalls be completed prior to California registration renewal. Uncorrected emission recalls will result in the inability to renew your California vehicle registration."
Now I'm guessing there will soon be some modded CA cars for sale to either unsuspecting CA buyers or out-of-state purchasers.
Although I would have loved/wanted to live in SoCal in the 60's, I'm sure glad when I left OH that I chose AZ.
#72
There's some misinformed assumptions here. While the recall is for cars with California (CARB) emissions standards, they are not applicable only to cars in California. The following states REQUIRE that the CARB standards be met in their own states:
New Jersey
Connecticut
Washington
Vermont
New York
Maine
Rhode Island
Massachusetts
Oregon
Arizona
Pennsylvania
Maryland
Florida
New Mexico
My guess is, if you bought your car (new) in one of those states, it's a CA emissions car, and would be subject to the recall, because in those states it needs to pass the CARB emissions standards.
New Jersey
Connecticut
Washington
Vermont
New York
Maine
Rhode Island
Massachusetts
Oregon
Arizona
Pennsylvania
Maryland
Florida
New Mexico
My guess is, if you bought your car (new) in one of those states, it's a CA emissions car, and would be subject to the recall, because in those states it needs to pass the CARB emissions standards.
#73
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This sentence is on the recall notice, so that's probably why it's voluntary.
"The California Air Resources Board (CARB) requires vehicle emission recalls be completed prior to California registration renewal. Uncorrected emission recalls will result in the inability to renew your California vehicle registration."
Now I'm guessing there will soon be some modded CA cars for sale to either unsuspecting CA buyers or out-of-state purchasers.
Although I would have loved/wanted to live in SoCal in the 60's, I'm sure glad when I left OH that I chose AZ.
"The California Air Resources Board (CARB) requires vehicle emission recalls be completed prior to California registration renewal. Uncorrected emission recalls will result in the inability to renew your California vehicle registration."
Now I'm guessing there will soon be some modded CA cars for sale to either unsuspecting CA buyers or out-of-state purchasers.
Although I would have loved/wanted to live in SoCal in the 60's, I'm sure glad when I left OH that I chose AZ.
This would be bad news for us that have the Z06 system. With the single cat in line it would not pass the visual.
Looks like I will have to install my original system and get the added cat and get a retune.
This is really bad news, more expensive converting back.
CARB just is a nightmare.
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There's some misinformed assumptions here. While the recall is for cars with California (CARB) emissions standards, they are not applicable only to cars in California. The following states REQUIRE that the CARB standards be met in their own states:
New Jersey
Connecticut
Washington
Vermont
New York
Maine
Rhode Island
Massachusetts
Oregon
Arizona
Pennsylvania
Maryland
Florida
New Mexico
My guess is, if you bought your car (new) in one of those states, it's a CA emissions car, and would be subject to the recall, because in those states it needs to pass the CARB emissions standards.
New Jersey
Connecticut
Washington
Vermont
New York
Maine
Rhode Island
Massachusetts
Oregon
Arizona
Pennsylvania
Maryland
Florida
New Mexico
My guess is, if you bought your car (new) in one of those states, it's a CA emissions car, and would be subject to the recall, because in those states it needs to pass the CARB emissions standards.
I don't know about those other states, however AZ only checks the gas cap and OBDII for codes. No visual or sniffer for late model stuff.
#76
Race Director
To what extent. Will the sensor tell if the emissions are too high? Or just if the days are working.
Alos anyone know what year the double cat system started in the C6, 2012.
I wonder if all the pre double in line cat systems will all be recalled.
Alos anyone know what year the double cat system started in the C6, 2012.
I wonder if all the pre double in line cat systems will all be recalled.
#77
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So if I understand the recall correctly, they are adding the mid-pipe cats to 2009 LS3 cars just like the 2012 and up with the 4 catalysts. 2008 gets the reflash and the primary cats I guess. Praise the Lord I got a federal emissions car from Oregon 1 year before they implemented California low emission vehicle standards. No NU5, no recall!
#78
Le Mans Master
In 45 years of registering cars I have never once had an inspection of any kind. There are still parts of America that don't elect liberals solely because they always promise to make things better but do the opposite so they can reuse the same campaign speeches next election.
#79
Race Director
So if I understand the recall correctly, they are adding the mid-pipe cats to 2009 LS3 cars just like the 2012 and up with the 4 catalysts. 2008 gets the reflash and the primary cats I guess. Praise the Lord I got a federal emissions car from Oregon 1 year before they implemented California low emission vehicle standards. No NU5, no recall!
#80
Safety Car
I don't think they would have the 2008's come back twice though. Perhaps the standard was increased for the '09 model year for CA LEVs. Anyways, I'd be pissed because the car was already certified compliant the year it came out as-is. They did this reflash-or-you-don't-get-your-tags for some powerstroke diesels back in 2003/2004 too and they ran worse after. Luckily I ended up with a federal car.