Corvette rivalries?
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Mustangs aren't even in the same league - they are pony cars. They compete with the Camaro and Challenger. I like all of them for different reasons but they aren't any competition for the Vette.
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Maybe the Doge viper (which are over $100K for the TA and GTS models), but that is about it.
Forget just straight line performance, and look at the total package of the corvette and something like high speed road coarse work instead.
In USA cars short of say the Viper, all the other American cars would need a ton of upgrades to be able run them at that speed level to begin with. In say the mustang, your looking at close to $20 grand by the time you upgrade the brakes and suspension to even consider them safe to be run lap after lap of speeds over 140mph range.
So this now leaves you with the imports instead for that level of performance of the vet/viper, and lets be blunt, the price tag on them just doubled for the same high speed road course type OEM car.
So what this leaves, the Corvette is the best value per dollar for a high speed road course car that will do over 180mph in stock from, and has the correct brakes and suspension for that OEM from the start.
To sum it up, take a look at the below link and lap times, then start putting prices on the cars to boot.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...eife_lap_times
Bluntly put, racing does not get fun until you crack through the 150mh mark time and time again, and throw some turns in to the mix as well.
So, mustang at 160mph and notice that its twicky at that speed, and you can see the unibody frame flexing to boot as well,
ZR1 at over 200mph and nothing harry about it at all instead,
Forget just straight line performance, and look at the total package of the corvette and something like high speed road coarse work instead.
In USA cars short of say the Viper, all the other American cars would need a ton of upgrades to be able run them at that speed level to begin with. In say the mustang, your looking at close to $20 grand by the time you upgrade the brakes and suspension to even consider them safe to be run lap after lap of speeds over 140mph range.
So this now leaves you with the imports instead for that level of performance of the vet/viper, and lets be blunt, the price tag on them just doubled for the same high speed road course type OEM car.
So what this leaves, the Corvette is the best value per dollar for a high speed road course car that will do over 180mph in stock from, and has the correct brakes and suspension for that OEM from the start.
To sum it up, take a look at the below link and lap times, then start putting prices on the cars to boot.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...eife_lap_times
Bluntly put, racing does not get fun until you crack through the 150mh mark time and time again, and throw some turns in to the mix as well.
So, mustang at 160mph and notice that its twicky at that speed, and you can see the unibody frame flexing to boot as well,
ZR1 at over 200mph and nothing harry about it at all instead,
Last edited by Dano523; Sep 22, 2015 at 12:01 PM.
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That's the beauty of the Vette..... It's different.... And it's an amazing bang for the buck when you consider a viper, 911, jag f type, lambo, Ferrari, Ford gt, McLaren, that have equal or better performance cost double the entry level new Vette..... And have documented much higher failure rates, and maintenance and insurance can be giant too....
Pseudo supercar for the masses.....
Pseudo supercar for the masses.....
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It seems that for some reason people (usually Mustang owners) want to try and compare the Mustang to the Corvette. Not sure why as already mention, the Mustang is in the Camaro and Challenger class. Ford has made advances in making the Mustang a little more of a road course car in specific models or packages, but it is still not in the same class as the Corvette. If you watch any major Sports car racing series you will Mustang's racing, but they are racing against Camaro's and other cars. The true sports cars race in a different division.
On the street I am sure the Mustang's are trying to see if they can beat a Corvette simply for bragging rights and nothing else.
I don't like to muse the word enemies, so I will say cars that are comparable to the Corvette in the terms of speed and handling would be the Porsche, Ferrari and Lambo.
On the street I am sure the Mustang's are trying to see if they can beat a Corvette simply for bragging rights and nothing else.
I don't like to muse the word enemies, so I will say cars that are comparable to the Corvette in the terms of speed and handling would be the Porsche, Ferrari and Lambo.
Safety Car
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Enemies? What are you? 10? Enjoy the car and be proud of your ownership and quit trying ti "one up" the other guys. They all feel the same way about their cars, but enemies? That's just immature high school crap.
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I do love the sound of Mustangs. The GTs, and especially the Shelby 500s, have an exhaust note that turns my head whenever I hear one. But beside my vette, the stang rides high like an SUV. Maybe when I'm older and fatter...
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Maybe the Doge viper (which are over $100K for the TA and GTS models), but that is about it.
Forget just straight line performance, and look at the total package of the corvette and something like high speed road coarse work instead.
In USA cars short of say the Viper, all the other American cars would need a ton of upgrades to be able run them at that speed level to begin with. In say the mustang, your looking at close to $20 grand by the time you upgrade the brakes and suspension to even consider them safe to be run lap after lap of speeds over 140mph range.
So this now leaves you with the imports instead for that level of performance of the vet/viper, and lets be blunt, the price tag on them just doubled for the same high speed road course type OEM car.
So what this leaves, the Corvette is the best value per dollar for a high speed road course car that will do over 180mph in stock from, and has the correct brakes and suspension for that OEM from the start.
To sum it up, take a look at the below link and lap times, then start putting prices on the cars to boot.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...eife_lap_times
Bluntly put, racing does not get fun until you crack through the 150mh mark time and time again, and throw some turns in to the mix as well.
So, mustang at 160mph and notice that its twicky at that speed, and you can see the unibody frame flexing to boot as well,
X
ZR1 at over 200mph and nothing harry about it at all instead,
X
Forget just straight line performance, and look at the total package of the corvette and something like high speed road coarse work instead.
In USA cars short of say the Viper, all the other American cars would need a ton of upgrades to be able run them at that speed level to begin with. In say the mustang, your looking at close to $20 grand by the time you upgrade the brakes and suspension to even consider them safe to be run lap after lap of speeds over 140mph range.
So this now leaves you with the imports instead for that level of performance of the vet/viper, and lets be blunt, the price tag on them just doubled for the same high speed road course type OEM car.
So what this leaves, the Corvette is the best value per dollar for a high speed road course car that will do over 180mph in stock from, and has the correct brakes and suspension for that OEM from the start.
To sum it up, take a look at the below link and lap times, then start putting prices on the cars to boot.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...eife_lap_times
Bluntly put, racing does not get fun until you crack through the 150mh mark time and time again, and throw some turns in to the mix as well.
So, mustang at 160mph and notice that its twicky at that speed, and you can see the unibody frame flexing to boot as well,
X
ZR1 at over 200mph and nothing harry about it at all instead,
X
Great post!FWIW: I have a good friend named Dan, and I've been calling him "Dano" for a couple of decades now, from the guy in the original Hawaii Five-O TV show (the new Five-0 sucks, IMO).
Is that where you get the nickname too?
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Maybe the Doge viper (which are over $100K for the TA and GTS models), but that is about it.
Forget just straight line performance, and look at the total package of the corvette and something like high speed road coarse work instead.
In USA cars short of say the Viper, all the other American cars would need a ton of upgrades to be able run them at that speed level to begin with. In say the mustang, your looking at close to $20 grand by the time you upgrade the brakes and suspension to even consider them safe to be run lap after lap of speeds over 140mph range.
So this now leaves you with the imports instead for that level of performance of the vet/viper, and lets be blunt, the price tag on them just doubled for the same high speed road course type OEM car.
So what this leaves, the Corvette is the best value per dollar for a high speed road course car that will do over 180mph in stock from, and has the correct brakes and suspension for that OEM from the start.
To sum it up, take a look at the below link and lap times, then start putting prices on the cars to boot.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...eife_lap_times
Bluntly put, racing does not get fun until you crack through the 150mh mark time and time again, and throw some turns in to the mix as well.
So, mustang at 160mph and notice that its twicky at that speed, and you can see the unibody frame flexing to boot as well,
https://youtu.be/rOhxxX06FGI
ZR1 at over 200mph and nothing harry about it at all instead,
https://youtu.be/FOoaVldHXuQ
Forget just straight line performance, and look at the total package of the corvette and something like high speed road coarse work instead.
In USA cars short of say the Viper, all the other American cars would need a ton of upgrades to be able run them at that speed level to begin with. In say the mustang, your looking at close to $20 grand by the time you upgrade the brakes and suspension to even consider them safe to be run lap after lap of speeds over 140mph range.
So this now leaves you with the imports instead for that level of performance of the vet/viper, and lets be blunt, the price tag on them just doubled for the same high speed road course type OEM car.
So what this leaves, the Corvette is the best value per dollar for a high speed road course car that will do over 180mph in stock from, and has the correct brakes and suspension for that OEM from the start.
To sum it up, take a look at the below link and lap times, then start putting prices on the cars to boot.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...eife_lap_times
Bluntly put, racing does not get fun until you crack through the 150mh mark time and time again, and throw some turns in to the mix as well.
So, mustang at 160mph and notice that its twicky at that speed, and you can see the unibody frame flexing to boot as well,
https://youtu.be/rOhxxX06FGI
ZR1 at over 200mph and nothing harry about it at all instead,
https://youtu.be/FOoaVldHXuQ
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