Questions on replacing front brake pads?
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Questions on replacing front brake pads?
I have a 2012 base C6 non-z51 with 36,000 miles. The front brakes have started to squeak and I am assuming I need to replace the pads.
I have not replaced pads on a car in many years. Chevy wants $600 to do the fronts (rotors & pads). Back in the day, you only replaced the rotors when there was wear, warpage, etc. However, you always cut them.
It seems nowadays people replace the rotors with pads
Q1: Do I have to replace the rotors if they are fine?
Q2: If not, should they be cut?
Q3: What pads should I replace them with? AutoZone sells Hawk but I am thinking I am better off with OEM.
Thank you.
I have not replaced pads on a car in many years. Chevy wants $600 to do the fronts (rotors & pads). Back in the day, you only replaced the rotors when there was wear, warpage, etc. However, you always cut them.
It seems nowadays people replace the rotors with pads
Q1: Do I have to replace the rotors if they are fine?
Q2: If not, should they be cut?
Q3: What pads should I replace them with? AutoZone sells Hawk but I am thinking I am better off with OEM.
Thank you.
Last edited by rckt; 03-24-2016 at 03:32 PM.
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I replaced my pads without replacing my rotors. If the rotors are still within thickness specs (stamped on the rotor) then they don't need to be replaced.
I did not do anything to my rotor surfaces either. I had 50K miles on my base Z51 car.
I replaced my OEM pads with OEM ceramics. At 50K miles, my original pads still had 50% pad material remaining. I just replaced the pads to ceramic to reduce the brake dust.
I did not do anything to my rotor surfaces either. I had 50K miles on my base Z51 car.
I replaced my OEM pads with OEM ceramics. At 50K miles, my original pads still had 50% pad material remaining. I just replaced the pads to ceramic to reduce the brake dust.
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I replaced my pads without replacing my rotors. If the rotors are still within thickness specs (stamped on the rotor) then they don't need to be replaced.
I did not do anything to my rotor surfaces either. I had 50K miles on my base Z51 car.
I replaced my OEM pads with OEM ceramics. At 50K miles, my original pads still had 50% pad material remaining. I just replaced the pads to ceramic to reduce the brake dust.
I did not do anything to my rotor surfaces either. I had 50K miles on my base Z51 car.
I replaced my OEM pads with OEM ceramics. At 50K miles, my original pads still had 50% pad material remaining. I just replaced the pads to ceramic to reduce the brake dust.
I went Auto Zone ceramic gold padlets FWIW
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I'm putting front pads on my 05 tomorrow here in our shop. No squeek but I can see I have about 30% pad left and that is when I change pads as far as wear goes.. Take your fingernail rckt and see how much grove you have on the outside edge of the rotor.. If I feel a grove I take the rotor and have it turned/cut.. At that time I also check for cracks or warping and if none exist I don't buy a new rotor, just resurface the existing rotor.
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A lot of members here use the Carbotech pads. What are you using the car for?
Carbotech is not the cheapest pad on the market but they are the best in my opinion if you are looking for a low dust performance street pad. Also, at 36k I would get new rotors I would also do all 4 corners at the same time with 36k on the clock. The 1 piece Carbotech 1521 for street use will run you $509.00. New OEM rotors are inexpensive I am basing this on that this is just a street car.
1 piece info.
Carbotech have redesign the C6 Z06 One Piece pad for the front and rear stock calipers (PBR Calipers). Carbotech was the first to release the padlets almost four years ago, and then we were the first to release the One Piece over a year ago. That design that Carbotech worked with GM on wasn't perfect. That's the same design you see other companies using now.
Carbotech set out to redesign the new One Piece all on their own. Carbotech wanted to make sure it was perfect and even more user friendly. This new design will drop right into the caliper and you don't have to take out the caliper pins or spring clips. The spring clips are critical in keeping the brake pad square to the rotor surface and ensuring that the pads slide smoothly along the pins. The spring clips also assist in reducing the noise inside the caliper.
The one piece pad will make changing pads a lot faster and easier. The Carbotech One Piece pad will give longer pad life and a little more bite as well. Carbotech is molding the new One Piece pad just like they do with all the C6, C5, and C4 brake pads.
Carbotech is also using industry leading NRS technology. If you're not familiar with NRS technology it gives molded pads up to 8 times stronger sheer strength vs. conventional molded brake pads and riveted pads. NRS technology also helps in reducing noise and vibration of the brake pad inside the caliper as well as aiding in longer wearing pads. Carbotech use NRS technology on all C6 & C5 front and rear brake pads.
Here is a link to explain further what NRS technology is exactly: http://www.nrsbrakes.com
Install procedure.
http://www.101corvetteprojects.com/2...rvette-c6-z06/
Compound info.
Carbotech™ Bobcat 1521™ The Carbotech Bobcat 1521™ is our high performance street compound that is our most successful compound. The Bobcat compound is known for its awesome release and modulation, along with unmatched rotor friendliness. Like our AX™ & XP™ line of compounds, Bobcat 1521™ is a Ceramic based friction material offering minimal rotor damage and non-corrosive dust. Bobcat 1521™ offers outstanding performance, even when cold, low dusting and low noise with an excellent initial bite. This compound’s virtually perfect linear torque production provides incredible braking force without ABS intervention. Bobcat 1521™ operating range starts out at ambient and goes up to 900°F. Bobcat 1521™ is suitable for ALL street cars, perfect for your tow vehicle, police cruiser. The Bobcat 1521™ compound has been found to last two-three times longer than OE pads you can purchase at a dealership or national retailer. That’s one of the beauties of Carbotech Ceramic brake compounds. Bobcat 1521™ is NOT recommended for any track use.
Carbotech is not the cheapest pad on the market but they are the best in my opinion if you are looking for a low dust performance street pad. Also, at 36k I would get new rotors I would also do all 4 corners at the same time with 36k on the clock. The 1 piece Carbotech 1521 for street use will run you $509.00. New OEM rotors are inexpensive I am basing this on that this is just a street car.
1 piece info.
Carbotech have redesign the C6 Z06 One Piece pad for the front and rear stock calipers (PBR Calipers). Carbotech was the first to release the padlets almost four years ago, and then we were the first to release the One Piece over a year ago. That design that Carbotech worked with GM on wasn't perfect. That's the same design you see other companies using now.
Carbotech set out to redesign the new One Piece all on their own. Carbotech wanted to make sure it was perfect and even more user friendly. This new design will drop right into the caliper and you don't have to take out the caliper pins or spring clips. The spring clips are critical in keeping the brake pad square to the rotor surface and ensuring that the pads slide smoothly along the pins. The spring clips also assist in reducing the noise inside the caliper.
The one piece pad will make changing pads a lot faster and easier. The Carbotech One Piece pad will give longer pad life and a little more bite as well. Carbotech is molding the new One Piece pad just like they do with all the C6, C5, and C4 brake pads.
Carbotech is also using industry leading NRS technology. If you're not familiar with NRS technology it gives molded pads up to 8 times stronger sheer strength vs. conventional molded brake pads and riveted pads. NRS technology also helps in reducing noise and vibration of the brake pad inside the caliper as well as aiding in longer wearing pads. Carbotech use NRS technology on all C6 & C5 front and rear brake pads.
Here is a link to explain further what NRS technology is exactly: http://www.nrsbrakes.com
Install procedure.
http://www.101corvetteprojects.com/2...rvette-c6-z06/
Compound info.
Carbotech™ Bobcat 1521™ The Carbotech Bobcat 1521™ is our high performance street compound that is our most successful compound. The Bobcat compound is known for its awesome release and modulation, along with unmatched rotor friendliness. Like our AX™ & XP™ line of compounds, Bobcat 1521™ is a Ceramic based friction material offering minimal rotor damage and non-corrosive dust. Bobcat 1521™ offers outstanding performance, even when cold, low dusting and low noise with an excellent initial bite. This compound’s virtually perfect linear torque production provides incredible braking force without ABS intervention. Bobcat 1521™ operating range starts out at ambient and goes up to 900°F. Bobcat 1521™ is suitable for ALL street cars, perfect for your tow vehicle, police cruiser. The Bobcat 1521™ compound has been found to last two-three times longer than OE pads you can purchase at a dealership or national retailer. That’s one of the beauties of Carbotech Ceramic brake compounds. Bobcat 1521™ is NOT recommended for any track use.
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rckt (03-26-2016)
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Changed my pads only (no rotors), low miles and plenty of pad left but the dust and the noise were a PIA. Used Akebono pads, about $140 for all 4 corners IIRC. Very happy with them, no dust at all and a slight squeal for about 100 ft. till I'm out of the driveway, then all is quiet. And stopping is fine, I don't track the car. Good luck!
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rckt (03-26-2016)
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I would consider what your intent to do with the car is... Street driving only or plan to do some track day or auto cross events.
My 06 base coupe had around 20,000 miles on it when I pulled the calipers apart to paint them yellow... I have always run ceramic pads for my cars for street use as they are considerably less dusty with day to day street use so I went ahead and put both front and rear ceramic pads on it at that time..
I bought the autozone duralast gold I believe ceramic pads and am very happy with them! Seem to be great quality for the price and I have since put a couple thousand miles on them with very little dust, no noise of any kind and no noticeable change in performance with street driving...
I kept original rotors
My oem pads still have approx 75% left on them so I keep them handy for any track or auto x events I may end up in. I would take the time to switch them back before any of this as I understand ceramic do not perform well and begin to have significant brake fade with this style driving.
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My 06 base coupe had around 20,000 miles on it when I pulled the calipers apart to paint them yellow... I have always run ceramic pads for my cars for street use as they are considerably less dusty with day to day street use so I went ahead and put both front and rear ceramic pads on it at that time..
I bought the autozone duralast gold I believe ceramic pads and am very happy with them! Seem to be great quality for the price and I have since put a couple thousand miles on them with very little dust, no noise of any kind and no noticeable change in performance with street driving...
I kept original rotors
My oem pads still have approx 75% left on them so I keep them handy for any track or auto x events I may end up in. I would take the time to switch them back before any of this as I understand ceramic do not perform well and begin to have significant brake fade with this style driving.
Tyler
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My 2c - avoid the brakeperformance premium semi-metallic. Mine stank, loud as can be even after bedding in etc. Buddy installed with perfection so it's 100% a brake production problem. I just received the Duralast Gold Ceramics and will not drive the vette until the other turds are gone!
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Just for reference, I currently have the ~$40 per axle O'Reilly's pads on JL9 rotors and can stop in less than 1000' from 125 MPH and not break a sweat. I can also activate the ABS from about 40 MPH, which means the brakes work better than the tires.
Corvettes, even with crappy brakes, will still outstop most anything else on the road. Because of that, I'm more concerned about getting hit in the rear in traffic rather than hitting the car in front of me.
Situational awareness is a better friend than the best brakes you'll ever have.
Corvettes, even with crappy brakes, will still outstop most anything else on the road. Because of that, I'm more concerned about getting hit in the rear in traffic rather than hitting the car in front of me.
Situational awareness is a better friend than the best brakes you'll ever have.
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My guess change all 4 knees (rotor and pads) average pads with slotted rotors NOT HOLEs and you should be fine.
Ps. I found a single pad works better than padlettes.
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rckt (03-28-2016)
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You say in your original post that the brakes are squeaking and you assume that you need to change pads. From your statement above I would guess that your brake pads are probably still at 60% or more and the squeak is caused by glazing. Brake pads will glaze when they are lightly used. Use the brakes hard a couple of times (60 - 10 mph) and see if they still squeak during normal use.
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Premature wear could be caused by many factors. Is the car a DD and do you do mostly heavy traffic driven i.e. rush hour "stop n go n stop n go"?
My guess change all 4 knees (rotor and pads) average pads with slotted rotors NOT HOLEs and you should be fine.
Ps. I found a single pad works better than padlettes.
My guess change all 4 knees (rotor and pads) average pads with slotted rotors NOT HOLEs and you should be fine.
Ps. I found a single pad works better than padlettes.