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Old Jun 19, 2017 | 09:11 PM
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Well, I started this thread, so I thought I'd better step in to say that I solved the problem of not being able to find a controller for my '05.
I bought an '06 Z06 with 11,500 miles on the clock.
Problem solved.
So you just took the easy way out?
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Originally Posted by Ira T
Well, I started this thread, so I thought I'd better step in to say that I solved the problem of not being able to find a controller for my '05.
I bought an '06 Z06 with 11,500 miles on the clock.
Problem solved.
That is awesome

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Old Jun 19, 2017 | 09:54 PM
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[quote=hoxxoh;1594980257]so you just took the easy way out?

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So you just took the easy way out?

The QUICK way!
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Old Jun 20, 2017 | 09:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Ira T
Well, I started this thread, so I thought I'd better step in to say that I solved the problem of not being able to find a controller for my '05.
I bought an '06 Z06 with 11,500 miles on the clock.
Problem solved.
Well played, sir. Well played.
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Old Jun 20, 2017 | 10:31 AM
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Didn't see that coming!
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Do you have one, or have you have driven one with a controller? If not, it may be unwise to make such a bold statement. The difference is not simply a state of mind.
No, I have just seen the curves of what they do and it is no different than what your foot could do. But I do understand that paying a lot of money for a fancy gadget does have significant effects on attitudes.

BTW, in the olden days there were 2 springs on the carburetor throttle linkage. I used to remove one of them for faster throttle response. Yes, the car seemed faster but was it really?
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Originally Posted by Ira T
Well, I started this thread, so I thought I'd better step in to say that I solved the problem of not being able to find a controller for my '05.
I bought an '06 Z06 with 11,500 miles on the clock.
Problem solved.
Now your foot is really connected to something different.
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I would never add a cheap device that messes with the ecm or pcm.
They do not alter the ECM or BCM. They only change take the voltage that the factory gas pedal position sensor puts out and change it to make the ECM think the pedal is in a different position. Depending on model and setting they can either make the ECM think you have pushed down farther or less than you actually have. But when your foot is off or at the floor they are all done and reporting the actual off or WOT position. The only time they are doing anything is at mid-throttle positions. And you are right, they are very cheap devices that cost a lot of money.
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They do not alter the ECM or BCM. They only change take the voltage that the factory gas pedal position sensor puts out and change it to make the ECM think the pedal is in a different position. Depending on model and setting they can either make the ECM think you have pushed down farther or less than you actually have. But when your foot is off or at the floor they are all done and reporting the actual off or WOT position. The only time they are doing anything is at mid-throttle positions. And you are right, they are very cheap devices that cost a lot of money.
Would you think Vitesse would be a better buy than Sprint Booster?
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Would you think Vitesse would be a better buy than Sprint Booster?
Vitesse , hands down ...
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Originally Posted by FortMorganAl
No, I have just seen the curves of what they do and it is no different than what your foot could do. But I do understand that paying a lot of money for a fancy gadget does have significant effects on attitudes.

BTW, in the olden days there were 2 springs on the carburetor throttle linkage. I used to remove one of them for faster throttle response. Yes, the car seemed faster but was it really?
You really need to try someone's car that has it.
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Originally Posted by FortMorganAl
No, I have just seen the curves of what they do and it is no different than what your foot could do. But I do understand that paying a lot of money for a fancy gadget does have significant effects on attitudes.

BTW, in the olden days there were 2 springs on the carburetor throttle linkage. I used to remove one of them for faster throttle response. Yes, the car seemed faster but was it really?
Al, there is no way your foot could replicate what the controllers do

While the gas pedal travel remains linear, the curve is not , so for your foot to replicate you would have to press's the pedal down in a non linear fashion ... it's not about how fast or slow you mash the pedal to the floor
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You really need to try someone's car that has it.
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Old Jun 20, 2017 | 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Dcasole
You need to try one to understand why so many people like it .........its not just about your foot , especially to those if us who have automatics ..

Dave
Agree with Dave. The effect it has on an A6 is the biggie for me.
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A lot smarter than installing a dangerous piece of crap. Got a suicide **** on your steering wheel too? Wow the steering response is amazing!!!
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Originally Posted by FortMorganAl
They do not alter the ECM or BCM. They only change take the voltage that the factory gas pedal position sensor puts out and change it to make the ECM think the pedal is in a different position. Depending on model and setting they can either make the ECM think you have pushed down farther or less than you actually have. But when your foot is off or at the floor they are all done and reporting the actual off or WOT position. The only time they are doing anything is at mid-throttle positions. And you are right, they are very cheap devices that cost a lot of money.
So it is like a varable resister inline with the power wire?..Spell checker not working Lol..Anyway you know what i mean.
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Originally Posted by Cherokee Nation
So it is like a varable resister inline with the power wire?..Spell checker not working Lol..Anyway you know what i mean.
Yes and no .. a variable resistor is still linear in it's response the Vitesse is not linear at all which is why everybody likes it ,

Not real numbers below but you will get the idea ....

So think of it this way 25 percent of gas pedal travel = 40 of throttle blade movement 50 percent = 65 percent , 75 percent = 90 percent ....

So with an auto , the trans is holding a lower gear with more throttle hence the reason why it feels so much better .....

To those non believers...dont knock it till you try it .....there is a reason why Sprint booster , Cow booster , Vitesse and all the others sell thousands of these things ...and sure there might be a few that pop a code ... but compared to how many are installed ... it's a REAL small percentage ....if it did not work you would hear about it not only on these forums but also the other LS forums

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Yes and no .. a variable resistor is still linear in it's response the Vitesse is not linear at all which is why everybody likes it ,

Not real numbers below but you will get the idea ....

So think of it this way 25 percent of gas pedal travel = 40 of throttle blade movement 50 percent = 65 percent , 75 percent = 90 percent ....

So with an auto , the trans is holding a lower gear with more throttle hence the reason why it feels so much better .....

To those non believers...dont knock it till you try it .....there is a reason why Sprint booster , Cow booster , Vitesse and all the others sell thousands of these things ...and sure there might be a few that pop a code ... but compared to how many are installed ... it's a REAL small percentage ....if it did not work you would hear about it not only on these forums but also the other LS forums

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I was thinking abouy getting one,but my 08 has good throttle reponse as it sits.Custom grind Com cam,headers.intake,V-Max throttle body,tuned on DanoJet and Borla Stringers.Hell, the way my brain works from day to day I just might order one....
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Originally Posted by Cherokee Nation
I was thinking abouy getting one,but my 08 has good throttle reponse as it sits.Custom grind Com cam,headers.intake,V-Max throttle body,tuned on DanoJet and Borla Stringers.Hell, the way my brain works from day to day I just might order one....
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