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Old Jul 12, 2016 | 08:19 PM
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Thinking about adding headers from American racing at Carlisle to my 2013 grand sport
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Thinking about adding headers from American racing at Carlisle to my 2013 grand sport
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issues with headers ....?

I installed LG's and high flow cats , kept my O2 Sensors, front and rear ( just for the visual check ) and I love them

The power increase across the RPM range is great and the sound .... I have NPP's and when they are open it sounds great

No issues at all !

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Thinking about adding headers from American racing at Carlisle to my 2013 grand sport
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The only issue is the heat, iv had to replace my clutch cable and 02 censors due to the heat. Iv also heard they are hard on starters but I haven't had any starter issues .
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My GS came with everything already wrapped in heat tape. I bought a roll of it but couldn't find anything to put it on other than the o2 sensors.
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The only issue is the heat, iv had to replace my clutch cable and 02 censors due to the heat. Iv also heard they are hard on starters but I haven't had any starter issues .
I did not wrap anything , nor did I feel the need to ...maybe if you are tracking the car but not a daily driver

Plenty of room between the headers and my starter and the wires were not even close....

I am confident that it was much hotter around the starter and wires in that area when my stock manifolds had the cats tucked up in that area right next to the starter ... now the cats are down in the tunnel

Not sure why your O2 sensors failed because of heat , were they not exposed to the same heat when they were in the stock manifolds ?

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Old Jul 12, 2016 | 09:09 PM
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I used two clips per side with my tunnel plate bolts to hold my wires way away from the exhaust.
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I did not wrap anything , nor did I feel the need to ...maybe if you are tracking the car but not a daily driver

Plenty of room between the headers and my starter and the wires were not even close....

I am confident that it was much hotter around the starter and wires in that area when my stock manifolds had the cats tucked up in that area right next to the starter ... now the cats are down in the tunnel

Not sure why your O2 sensors failed because of heat , were they not exposed to the same heat when they were in the stock manifolds ?

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the 02 sensors them selves were fine it was the wires that got melted due to the relocation of them no longer being long enough to be tied up out of the way and caused the malfunction.
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Originally Posted by pyrodav
I used two clips per side with my tunnel plate bolts to hold my wires way away from the exhaust.
Yep , same here , I drilled two holes on each side of the tunnel plate and wire tied my O2 wires to it and then I drilled a 1 inch hole in the tunnel plate by the rear O2 sensor's and ran the wires on top of the plate . plenty of room and no worries at all about burning the wires as they are better protected from heat now than they were in the stock positions

After removing the stock manifolds and cats , I felt that there was way more room between the starter/solenoid and the headers than there was between the starter and the old manifolds and cats , that cat was right there next to the starter and its wires

I think if you are tracking the car and making serious power then you need to wrap but not for a daily driver with just bolt on ..
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Originally Posted by COMMANDER2OOO
the 02 sensors them selves were fine it was the wires that got melted due to the relocation of them no longer being long enough to be tied up out of the way and caused the malfunction.
Now I see , my LG's came with HI quality extensions for all 4 sensors

The extensions are a must in my opinion '


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Now I see , my LG's came with HI quality extensions for all 4 sensors

The extensions are a must in my opinion '


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yes your right I used extensions when I replaced them.
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yes your right I used extensions when I replaced them.
Love your hood and what's under it !
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I have installed LG & ARH at my shop, Quality on both r great but ARH are & easier install.
I had to do some welding on LG xpipe to get a good seal on connections.
You will love the sound & performance !
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ECS installed AR headers on my '05 bunch of years ago & the quality has been great. If they (ECS) are doing installs at Carlisle this year, I'd highly recommend them. Also consider a tune to get maximum benefit from the headers. As a precaution, I also installed flex heat shields on the spark plug boots.
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Since you are so close call JTM Motor Sports. They are in the same building as American Racing Headers. Call John 631 392-1135. They are in Deer Park NY. LIE Exit 51 south. Not far from you.
I had them do all my work!
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They are great headers, some of the companies will bring your order with them, see if they can give you show price on coated headers, just a thought...
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