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Old Jul 19, 2016 | 09:34 AM
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I'm on my second starter in 3 months. The mechanic stated that the headers were melting a connection. Has anyone experienced this before? If so, what is the solution? Heat shield? Do I need to have one fabricated? Is there a stock one that maybe is just missing?
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Old Jul 19, 2016 | 11:32 AM
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Very common problem when headers are involved. There is no stock heat shield. Wrapping the starter with heat resistant material and fabricating a shield between the starter and headers will certainly help.
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Old Jul 19, 2016 | 02:25 PM
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Very common problem when headers are involved. There is no stock heat shield. Wrapping the starter with heat resistant material and fabricating a shield between the starter and headers will certainly help.
Heat shield is answer!
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Old Jul 19, 2016 | 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by EVRose
Very common problem when headers are involved.
I'm not sure it's a common problem. I have had LG MotorSports long tube headers on my car for the last 30,000 miles and have not had a starter problem yet. (Knock on wood)

bama6872, what brand of headers do you have?

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Old Jul 19, 2016 | 03:30 PM
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I had that problem on my '68 Camaro, I put some header wrap on the headers that were next to the starter, 30 min fix, very easy to do, wrap available at most auto stores, easy on the $$ too
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Old Jul 19, 2016 | 03:32 PM
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Check with some of the supporting vendors for heat shield and/starter wrap. I have read quite a few posts about header heat damaging starter solenoids.
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Old Jul 19, 2016 | 04:48 PM
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Works for me 11 GS - Kooks LT, catless X......Jegs or Summit Racing





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Old Jul 19, 2016 | 04:49 PM
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Great. Thx everyone. I've got it all lined up to take care of tomorrow.
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Old Jul 20, 2016 | 08:48 AM
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Also may want to put shields on the spark plug wires.
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Old Jul 20, 2016 | 09:08 AM
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Old Jul 20, 2016 | 11:10 AM
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Wondering out loud here. Why wouldn't the OEM Cats in their original location not be hotter or at least as hot as headers, they are tucked up in there pretty tightly
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Old Jul 20, 2016 | 11:12 AM
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Do you have to pull the header to install one of these or can you get to it with everything in place?
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Old Jul 20, 2016 | 12:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Not So Fast
Wondering out loud here. Why wouldn't the OEM Cats in their original location not be hotter or at least as hot as headers, they are tucked up in there pretty tightly
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The actual core of the cats are somewhat insulated in the cans. They may use a material called cerablanket in OEM form that holds the catalyst just tight enough in the can. The heat of the exhaust core is greatly reduced before it reaches the metal container.
Since the headers are a single wall design, it's probable that the heat transferred off the piping is much hotter.
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Just an FYI...the insulation helps but we are not in the 60's - 70's anymore. A friend of mine with a C6Z had Lingenfelter install his 630HP pkg and the car came back burning up starters.We covered the starter and solenoid with insulation and still no joy. Lingenfelter (after sending him a retune which didn't work either) finally picked the car up and sent it back Mass. They retuned the car and it hasn't burn't another starter since.

I have LG's on my C5 and ARH's on my C6. I tune them myself but have never had an issue with the starter.

Although, I must admit, because I remember the 60's and 70's my starters are wrapped...

It can be in the tune as well..

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Originally Posted by TCW
I'm not sure it's a common problem. I have had LG MotorSports long tube headers on my car for the last 30,000 miles and have not had a starter problem yet. (Knock on wood)

bama6872, what brand of headers do you have?

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We ran off the shelf 1 3/4 on the World Challenge cars and OEM GM starters with no issues for years with no wrap or shielding around the starter or coating on the headers.

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Old Jul 20, 2016 | 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted by TCW
I'm not sure it's a common problem. I have had LG MotorSports long tube headers on my car for the last 30,000 miles and have not had a starter problem yet. (Knock on wood)

bama6872, what brand of headers do you have?

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I am not sure. I am hoping to find out today. I just dropped her off with the heat shield and titanium heat wrap. I hope this does it.
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Old Jul 21, 2016 | 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Not So Fast
Wondering out loud here. Why wouldn't the OEM Cats in their original location not be hotter or at least as hot as headers, they are tucked up in there pretty tightly
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I just got the call from the mechanic and you are right. It is the Cats not the headers.
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Old Jul 21, 2016 | 03:50 PM
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Thanks everyone. Ill let you know if this continues but lets hope not. $$$$
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Originally Posted by extrapilot
Summit racing has them.
Amazon also carries those starter blankets.

Lingenfelter also offers a heatshield. (http://www.lingenfelter.com/product/...l#.V5GU_5BTGM8)
(This guys may still have his for sale: https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...hift-****.html)

I would also recommend wrapping / tubing the wires with a heat-shield.


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