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Old Jul 22, 2016 | 02:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Gearhead Jim
We drove our C5 through five Chicago winters on the GY winter (not A/S) runflats, no longer available. When we sold it, the frame looked better than OP and the body/paint looked like any other C5 with the same miles and years. So OP's pictures are not encouraging.

On our C6, we park it when the salt first hits the roads and don't drive it until the spring rains melt the salt away. Except, once each winter we cover the shipping slots with duct tape and drive to Florida, remove the tape and wash underneath thoroughly when we get there. I did forget to do the tape job one year.

Recently I bought a tiny video camera and was able to look inside the frame through the shipping slots, found only one small spot of rust. I think rust inside the frame is much harder to deal with, so if OP wants to keep his car for a long time, I'd recommend the interior camera inspection. He might be ok, or not. Here's the link to my other thread, post #4 has the best info.

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Shipping slots huh? That's something I didn't know of. Where are they located? if not visible, why couldn't you leave them taped?
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Old Jul 22, 2016 | 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by dmk0210
That's just going to hide it, not fix it.


It's just surface rust now. Get it off and then protect the area to prevent future rust.

Get under the car with a bright flashlight and inspect every nook and cranny for more rust.

Eastwood has good stuff. I'd start there.

My experience with Por15 was not good. Maybe I did something wrong, but I've had rust come back on parts I used Por-15 on. (this was on a Jeep, so it saw much more abuse than a Corvette)
Ok- I checked out eastwood. They also have a product that can remove the rust chemically. Ill try the wire brush first. There is also a sensor down there with some rust around it. I guess I should try to remove the sensor before the repair? Hope that's not too tricky.
Also- they sell 2 types of "rust encapsulators"- I think I'm to go with the rubberized in an undercoating formula- my question is there any reason I shouldn't use the undercoating instead of the regular kind for everything I'm painting that's on the frame?
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Old Jul 22, 2016 | 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Al90Vette
I'm definitely disappointed in myself for not noticing this upon initial inspection of the car
I think I was so overwhelmed with Corvette fever and awestruck at how clean the car was .... It was like some Jedi mind trick
A lot of us have had the "Fever". I had the fever and missed wear on inside of front tires.
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Old Jul 22, 2016 | 02:31 PM
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Like another said Al.. wire brush and paint and enjoy your car.. I know your disapointed but don't let it ruin your experience... There are many worse than yours and the owners don't even know about it.
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Old Jul 22, 2016 | 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Al90Vette
Shipping slots huh? That's something I didn't know of. Where are they located? if not visible, why couldn't you leave them taped?
My guess is that he meant the slots for jacking pucks. He probably taped them to keep water and salt spray from getting inside the rails.
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Old Jul 22, 2016 | 05:36 PM
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Correct. I was told transporters insert T-hooks in them to anchor the cars for shipping.
Since the slots can allow water to drain out as well as in, I only tape mine for a couple of days. But I have not yet had any water drain out of them when removing the tape.
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Old Jul 22, 2016 | 05:47 PM
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To the OP - I would not loose any sleep over this, Chevy subjects the Vette to the same salt bath corrosion tests as the rest of it's cars. Does the rust detract form the looks underhood ? Yes, but you can fix that. It is not a rotted mess by any means, just get under the car and flush out the framerails and underside. Then drive the snot out of it and enjoy the car.
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Old Jul 22, 2016 | 06:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Al90Vette
Also- they sell 2 types of "rust encapsulators"- I think I'm to go with the rubberized in an undercoating formula- my question is there any reason I shouldn't use the undercoating instead of the regular kind for everything I'm painting that's on the frame?
The problem with the rubberized stuff is you can get a cut in it and won't see it since it can be somewhat self healing. However it could still let water get underneath to form hidden rust. You won't see rust forming under it.

Regular paint will chip and scratch visibly. If rust forms underneath it, it will bubble, lift up and flake off. You can see that and repair it before it gets much worse.
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Old Jul 22, 2016 | 10:54 PM
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My first response was somewhat tongue in cheek.

My underside looks just fine after 225,000. Nothing to worry about, and I drive it in all sorts of weather and over all sort of road surfaces. It's been driven in the rain , on a beach , over countless miles of gravel/dirt , all winter in the salt and road treatment, in the occasional snow storm. It's even been driven over the Rockies in a blizzard (I don't recommend this, BTW).

I don't have any way to lift it up to spray underneath, which is the answer to keeping the bottom corrosion-free, but I do have a really good touchless wash (OH,NO, blasphemy) locally, with a very powerful undercarriage wash, and that has done the trick for me. I use it every couple of weeks during the period when the roads are being treated, and a couple of times every spring in the weeks after the last road treatment (at least two rains).

I also us this when it gets to hot to really spend the time washing. It takes all of 5 minutes to wipe it dry, including under the hood, trunk lid and inside the doors.
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Old Jul 23, 2016 | 12:23 AM
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Originally Posted by owc6
My first response was somewhat tongue in cheek.

My underside looks just fine after 225,000. Nothing to worry about, and I drive it in all sorts of weather and over all sort of road surfaces. It's been driven in the rain , on a beach , over countless miles of gravel/dirt , all winter in the salt and road treatment, in the occasional snow storm. It's even been driven over the Rockies in a blizzard (I don't recommend this, BTW).

I don't have any way to lift it up to spray underneath, which is the answer to keeping the bottom corrosion-free, but I do have a really good touchless wash (OH,NO, blasphemy) locally, with a very powerful undercarriage wash, and that has done the trick for me. I use it every couple of weeks during the period when the roads are being treated, and a couple of times every spring in the weeks after the last road treatment (at least two rains).

I also us this when it gets to hot to really spend the time washing. It takes all of 5 minutes to wipe it dry, including under the hood, trunk lid and inside the doors.
Good Call- I need to find something similar to me- although no reason I cant pressure wash in my buddys shop
After being a bit unnerved today a drive cured my ales and put a smile on my face
took my co workers for rides as well- and some friends- everyone loves the car- even my anti vette pal will lol
Also ran into an old friend that happened to buy a new z06, which a new neighbor has as well... so weird!
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Originally Posted by owc6
My first response was somewhat tongue in cheek.

My underside looks just fine after 225,000.
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That's TMI.


I thought about asking for pictures, but then you might crawl through the computer and smack me.
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Old Jul 23, 2016 | 02:35 PM
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That rusty rectangular depression in your photo where the shock tower is welded to the frame is the worst debris, including rock salt, catcher.
I clean it regular and am thinking of covering, sealing it somehow.
Clean it, flush it, wire brush it, and put some satin black Rustoleum on it.

Rust neutralizer optional. Just make sure all the salt residue is gone.
Prep is the key.

Most of the hardware chains have that neutralizer stuff. What's nice about it, it goes on easy and blends in nicely with the frame paint.
I used a lot of it on my '91 Caprice (with a top coat) a few years ago. It seems to work.
At least it doesn't seal moisture in and ensure future problems.
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That's TMI.


I thought about asking for pictures, but then you might crawl through the computer and smack me.
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Old Jul 23, 2016 | 09:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Joe B.
That rusty rectangular depression in your photo where the shock tower is welded to the frame is the worst debris, including rock salt, catcher.
I clean it regular and am thinking of covering, sealing it somehow.
Clean it, flush it, wire brush it, and put some satin black Rustoleum on it.

Rust neutralizer optional. Just make sure all the salt residue is gone.
Prep is the key.

Most of the hardware chains have that neutralizer stuff. What's nice about it, it goes on easy and blends in nicely with the frame paint.
I used a lot of it on my '91 Caprice (with a top coat) a few years ago. It seems to work.
At least it doesn't seal moisture in and ensure future problems.
Thanks- I stabbed it a bit with a screw driver today and it wasn't as bad as I thought. I will be able to remove all of the rust I believe. There is some on the underbody of the car but its also minor and only on some stamped steel parts. I was going to order the chassis black which is a protectant or the rust neutralizer/encapsulator from eastwood- still not sure which- I'm sure both would be best. Its cheap enough in aerosol form I guess
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Originally Posted by beaversstonehaven
Clean it up, paint, enjoy the car and don't worry about it.
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