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Old Aug 19, 2016 | 11:34 AM
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I have updated my post EARLY MODEL?

I now have the build sheet and VIS for the car VIN # 1G1YY36W685100006.

Carfax shows 3 owners present company not included! Total time of ownership OWNER one GM 6 months. OWNER 2 UNKNOWN 9 days, and OWNER 3 1 Year. This covers up to 8-13-16.

The period of 4-17-2007 to 8-13-2016. Over 9 years and they account for 1 year 6 months and 9 days?

I notice that someone with the last name TORNABENE had a GM certified warranty on the car dated 12-18-2010 to 12-18-2015.

During this period CARFAX notes that Dealer took title of vehicle. I called the Dealer LAVERY AUTOMOTIVE, Alliance Ohio and they knew nothing of the vehicle?

As I said, a mystery!

More to think about.

I just received my 08 Service Manuals and on pages 1-6 and 1-7 there is a explanation for the VIN numbers.

My VIN 1G1YY36W685100006

The manual says
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1. Country of origin 1 is The United States
2. Manufacturer G is General motors
3. Division 1 is Chevrolet
4. Car Series YY is Corvette
5. " " " "
6. Body Type 07 Two Door plain back coupe
67 Two door Convertible
87 Two door Z06
7. Restraint System 2 Active restraints
4 Active restraints inc side
8. Engine U 6.0 Liter LS 2
E* 7.0 Liter LS7 Y up to sn100161
9. Check Digit
10. Model Year 8 2008
11. Assembly Plant 5 Bowling Green
12-17 Plant sequence number

Based on the Manual, mine is OK with 1G1YY but then 36 for the body style does not match up nor does the engine code?

Either the book is wrong or I have a funny VIN number?

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Old Aug 19, 2016 | 09:52 PM
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As you have noticed, Carfax can be wildly inaccurate sometimes.

As for the original dealer not knowing anything, they may have never seen the actual car but were listed on the paperwork for some reason. Courtesy delivery somewhere else, or paperwork problems they don't want to dredge up, etc. Or they are just too lazy/dumb to figure it out for you.
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Old Aug 19, 2016 | 10:03 PM
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You should be able to go to any Chevy Dealer, and they can tell you what service was performed, on any date. Along with that, they should be able to tell you who the owner was, at the time of those service dates.
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Old Aug 19, 2016 | 10:33 PM
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What does the VIS show?
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Old Aug 19, 2016 | 10:39 PM
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I would not trust Carfax as the gospel, my BMW showed no accidents after I took it to the dealer to have body work done after an accident.

I looked at the Carfax on my trade in after the dealer posted the sale add, it showed no accidents. Understand it was a $1000 claim in a parking lot.

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Old Aug 20, 2016 | 09:16 AM
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As you have noticed, Carfax can be wildly inaccurate sometimes.

As for the original dealer not knowing anything, they may have never seen the actual car but were listed on the paperwork for some reason. Courtesy delivery somewhere else, or paperwork problems they don't want to dredge up, etc. Or they are just too lazy/dumb to figure it out for you.
Carfax shows the car at the Michigan Auto Auction 11-15+-2007 with 14,908 miles on it.On 11-16-07 with 15,149 it went ti Dealer Inventory and was offered for sale. On 11-26-07 Vehicle sold, 11-26,2007 it says Dealer took title of the vehicle while it was in inventory. On 7-28 98 Registration issued or renewed. 11-06-2008 mileage 19,969. From 12-04-2009 to 12-17-2010 it was in Alliance Ohio and serviced by Lavery Automotive. It was serviced by Lavery last 6-24-2015. Lavery claims to know nothing about the vehicle. When I talked with them they asked me to bring it in and they would look at it! Look at what, I gave them the VIN? The bottom line is Owner 1 was GM Corporate they had it for 6 months. Owner 2 is unknown and they had it for 9 days, Owner 3 whom I contacted had it for 1 year. It fell in to a black hole 11-15-2007 until 7-15-2015?

I do see on the VIS report that a owner TORNABENE had a GM certified contract with a effective date 12/18/2010 miles 33782 Expiration date 12-18-2015. As I said, a mystery, who had it for all of those years and why does it not show up in title transfers? It was a GM Pilot Vehicle and the number 6 2008 car put in production.
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Old Aug 20, 2016 | 09:37 AM
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You should be able to go to any Chevy Dealer, and they can tell you what service was performed, on any date. Along with that, they should be able to tell you who the owner was, at the time of those service dates.
I have the VIS it does not show owner names!It does show service dates and action taken but there are gaps. The VIS is only good if the service is performed by a GM Dealer.
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Originally Posted by Ben101er
You should be able to go to any Chevy Dealer, and they can tell you what service was performed, on any date. Along with that, they should be able to tell you who the owner was, at the time of those service dates.


Everything follows the Vin #

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Originally Posted by Ben101er
You should be able to go to any Chevy Dealer, and they can tell you what service was performed, on any date. Along with that, they should be able to tell you who the owner was, at the time of those service dates.
I got the VIS from the Dealer and it only shows reported data, it is not complete. As a matter of fact, Carfax shows more service actions. Carfax shows a lot of service performed at Lavery Automotive in Alliance Ohio. The VIS report shows that there was a service contract on the car for 5 years that has since expired.

I will keep digging!
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Old Aug 21, 2016 | 12:22 PM
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Everything follows the Vin #
So you would think! The problem is that if you take the car to a independent shop, there will be no trace of service actions!

The problem that I am having is trying to find out why there are no registration names. I see car put up for sale but then there are no sale records?
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You need to make nice with a LEO...perhaps in a Corvette club and, when he/she sees what you want, they might run the VIN in the system.
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Old Aug 21, 2016 | 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by ruxvette
You need to make nice with a LEO...perhaps in a Corvette club and, when he/she sees what you want, they might run the VIN in the system.
I have the BUILD SHEET and I have The Vehicle Report plus Carfax. There is more to be accessed?
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Have you googled the VIN? Just page 1 shows Mr. T's full name and address. It also shows an expired ad on Ebay showing a seller in PA, and as being in inventory at one time at a dealer in Nashville.

Never trust Carfax.
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Have you googled the VIN? Just page 1 shows Mr. T's full name and address. It also shows an expired ad on Ebay showing a seller in PA, and as being in inventory at one time at a dealer in Nashville.

Never trust Carfax.
The first thing I did was google the VIN. I saw both AD's that the previous
owner ran. I did make contact with Him via the AD's which was through Ebay. As you may or may not know you cannot correspond with someone who has a ebay AD outside of Ebay. I tried to have Him contact me via email and Ebay would not let the message go through?

I did learn that He only had the car a year and put less than 600 miles on it. He sold it because in His words, it was collecting dust! As for the Nashville Dealer, that is who I got it from!

I asked the guy in Pennsylvania where He got it from and how the Dealer in Nashville got it. He never replied! DEAD END!
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Originally Posted by Ben101er
You should be able to go to any Chevy Dealer, and they can tell you what service was performed, on any date. Along with that, they should be able to tell you who the owner was, at the time of those service dates.
"You should be able to go to any Chevy Dealer, and they can tell you what service was performed" - only if the work was performed by an authorized GM dealership. I do all of my own oil / filter changes, I replaced the diff fluid myself, and installed new sway bar end links....all simple stuff. None of this would show up by submitting the VIN at a dealership.
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"You should be able to go to any Chevy Dealer, and they can tell you what service was performed" - only if the work was performed by an authorized GM dealership. I do all of my own oil / filter changes, I replaced the diff fluid myself, and installed new sway bar end links....all simple stuff. None of this would show up by submitting the VIN at a dealership.
That is exactly what I said in this post! In my case, Carfax shows service that the GM VIS does not. I do not always go to a Dealer either!
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What about the DMV records?
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What about the DMV records?
You can access DMV records?
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Originally Posted by Gearhead Jim
As you have noticed, Carfax can be wildly inaccurate sometimes.
Understatement of the year.
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Since the car was a GM car, there will not be any registration information for the period they were driving it. They retain the MCO (Manufacturer Certificate of Origin), slap on one of their Manufacturer / Dealer Plates and drive!! It shows up later as GM taking title because they can't sell it on the MCO because it isn't new anymore. CARFAX will never show the name of an individual owner because that is private information in accordance with the law in most states (Driver and Vehicle Owner Privacy Acts).
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