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Old Dec 9, 2016 | 08:47 PM
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So had my 2011 GS to a dealer today for an alignment and tire balancing.. They tell me that 3 out of 4 wheels are out of round and will not be able to balance correctly 100%.. Now I've owned the car 3 years with no bumps, potholes, or accidents.. It had a clean carfax and no signs of previous accidents when I bought it.. I guess my question is can factory original wheels 3 out of 4 just get out of round because the little vibration I feel in the wheel just started recently? And also I wonder if GM would stand behind me for new wheels?? The car just turned 25000 miles and I put 10K of that on it with no issues with anything... Thanks Bob
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I believe the 8th word is your problem, at least try a qualified tire shop before you go into battle with GM, which you would never win anyways. JMHO
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Old Dec 9, 2016 | 09:10 PM
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I believe the 8th word is your problem, at least try a qualified tire shop before you go into battle with GM, which you would never win anyways. JMHO
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Thanks, I was kinda thinking the same.. Just thought I would get some input...
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Old Dec 9, 2016 | 09:30 PM
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Thanks, I was kinda thinking the same.. Just thought I would get some input...
My 2011 GS had a tiny vibration when I got it 2 years ago at 80 mph also, plus it tramlined to the left , had it balanced and it was somewhat better. This was with Nitto's. Then 2 months ago bought new Hankook tires for it with road force balance, straight and smooth now
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Sounds like they don't know what they are talking about or don't have anyone qualified enough to be able to balance a tire properly. Take it to a good tire shop and have them take a look. I bent one once on a 350Z and didn't realize I had done any damage to it. I find it hard to believe that 3 out of 4 would be bad.
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Good tire shop, not dealer.
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Old Dec 9, 2016 | 09:50 PM
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Sounds like they don't know what they are talking about or don't have anyone qualified enough to be able to balance a tire properly. Take it to a good tire shop and have them take a look. I bent one once on a 350Z and didn't realize I had done any damage to it. I find it hard to believe that 3 out of 4 would be bad.
That's what I asked right off the bat was I can't believe 3 out of 4.. And I said to the service manager it sounds to me the wheels are defective and GM should replace them... He didn't want to talk about that other than to say its out of warranty.. It's not bad but I know it's not right and it bugs the hell out of me... LOL
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I would like to know how the dealer determined how 3 wheels where out of round with the tires still mounted to them....there is a good possibility that the tires are out of round and should be rotated on the rim maybe.....but highly unlikely your wheels are out of round....only way to check is to put a runout gauge on them.
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Good tire shop, not dealer.
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I agree tire shop not the dealer bet he just saw $$$$$$$ for a new set
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Yep a good tire shop would've been a better choice.
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Originally Posted by z06Don
I would like to know how the dealer determined how 3 wheels where out of round with the tires still mounted to them....there is a good possibility that the tires are out of round and should be rotated on the rim maybe.....but highly unlikely your wheels are out of round....only way to check is to put a runout gauge on them.
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Originally Posted by z06Don
I would like to know how the dealer determined how 3 wheels where out of round with the tires still mounted to them....there is a good possibility that the tires are out of round and should be rotated on the rim maybe.....but highly unlikely your wheels are out of round....only way to check is to put a runout gauge on them.

Get some details. How much runout did the dealer observe? If it's more than 1 mm (.040"), then take the tires off and check runout on the rims. It's impossible to conclude rims are bad by measuring the tires.
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Factory wheels are usually pretty tough. It takes a lot to bend one.
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Get some details. How much runout did the dealer observe? If it's more than 1 mm (.040"), then take the tires off and check runout on the rims. It's impossible to conclude rims are bad by measuring the tires.
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Factory wheels are usually pretty tough. It takes a lot to bend one.
Unless the rim is just really bashed up, it's tough to see runout with a tire mounted. OEM rims rarely have manufacturing defects...certainly fewer than aftermarket. They are very durable and it does take quite a beating to bend one.
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Unless the rim is just really bashed up, it's tough to see runout with a tire mounted. OEM rims rarely have manufacturing defects...certainly fewer than aftermarket. They are very durable and it does take quite a beating to bend one.
I think this is more common with wider GS rims with the big offset. Especially with Goodyear runflats. When I had New tires put on my 12Gs, tire man said left front rim was bent and Goodyear run flats had sidewalls like concrete! Inside of rim had definite flat spot. I don't know when it happened . Be Aware!
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I think this is more common with wider GS rims with the big offset. Especially with Goodyear runflats. When I had New tires put on my 12Gs, tire man said left front rim was bent and Goodyear run flats had sidewalls like concrete! Inside of rim had definite flat spot. I don't know when it happened . Be Aware!
And more likely on the 19/20 combo than the 18/19...
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It would be interesting to know how the dealer determined the wheels are bent, seems to me a buildup of oxide on the hub could lead to the same determination. I would get a second opinion as others have mentioned without telling the second party what is susected. I've had Mt 12GS well north of 100 on Michelin PSS without issue (racetrack), and the roads in Seattle are in terrible condition.
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First of all, a wheel being out of round and balanced are completely exclusive/independent of each other.

You can put a square piece of wood on a spin balancer and still spin balance it..

You need to find a shop that performs road-force balancing. I could spend an hour typing out the difference between standard spin balancing and road-force balancing but there are any number of online video sources that explain the technology and process:

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