radar detector
#42
Waze is not a stand alone substitute for a RD.
It is a tool to use with a RD. Waze is totally dependent on reporting, so it will be less useful the more rural/highway you drive. Keep in mind that cops monitor it as well, so the minute they are reported, they will move shop to a new place and get someone (or three) before they are reported at the new location; rinse and repeat.
#43
Agreed! I don't use my V1, Max360, Redline EX, Stinger VIP, or anything else much anymore unless it's for testing purposes. The R3 is a monster in terms of performance, has great filtering, lots of helpful features, and is a reasonable price too.
The other detectors are great too though... The V1 and Max360 offer arrows which are helpful. The Max360 and Redline EX do autolockouts which great for people starting out. You've got great remote options too like the Net Radar and Max Ci. The R3 is my detector of choice though.
The other detectors are great too though... The V1 and Max360 offer arrows which are helpful. The Max360 and Redline EX do autolockouts which great for people starting out. You've got great remote options too like the Net Radar and Max Ci. The R3 is my detector of choice though.
I used to have a cheap Uniden years ago before the V1 and really liked it.
What is it specifically about the R3 that's better than the V1? Is it worth replacing the V1 for the R3? I'd really miss those arrows though.
#44
Waze cannot substitute for a RD (even a cheap one).
It's an additional tool, not a stand-alone for at least a few reasons:
Waze only works reasonably well in well-travelled areas, so rural areas are certainly underreported, and won't do a bit of good; this means most of this great nation's highways don't have enough traffic to tell you if a cop is sitting ahead of you.
Waze cannot tell you if a cop has recently set up shop at any given location before someone has a chance to report it.
Cops monitor Waze, and the minute they are reported, they move shop to another location.
And mostly, Waze cannot help you with a cop on the roll, whether he is behind you or is in your oncoming lane.
It's an additional tool, not a stand-alone for at least a few reasons:
Waze only works reasonably well in well-travelled areas, so rural areas are certainly underreported, and won't do a bit of good; this means most of this great nation's highways don't have enough traffic to tell you if a cop is sitting ahead of you.
Waze cannot tell you if a cop has recently set up shop at any given location before someone has a chance to report it.
Cops monitor Waze, and the minute they are reported, they move shop to another location.
And mostly, Waze cannot help you with a cop on the roll, whether he is behind you or is in your oncoming lane.
However, it is next to useless in rural BFE where I live. I've given up using it in my daily driving and have uninstalled it from my phone.
#45
For most people just starting out though, I think a slightly more automated detector like the Max360 would be a better choice. The big issue with it is that its false alert filtering isn't up to par with the competition, but there's a firmware update that should be coming (but has been delayed over and over and over again), but once it finally comes out, it should improve things considerably and make the detector way better.
I like the V1 too, but don't use it as much these days because it relies on the phone for many important features like GPS lockouts and a frequency display. Plus at night it's harder to identify the band just by looking at the detector since it's all red lights.
I have a V1 and I really like the arrows. It's nice to know where that radar ping is coming from, especially front/rear.
I used to have a cheap Uniden years ago before the V1 and really liked it.
What is it specifically about the R3 that's better than the V1? Is it worth replacing the V1 for the R3? I'd really miss those arrows though.
I used to have a cheap Uniden years ago before the V1 and really liked it.
What is it specifically about the R3 that's better than the V1? Is it worth replacing the V1 for the R3? I'd really miss those arrows though.
#46
Racer
I use the passport 9500 and 8500. They are helpful when combined with watchful eyes and countryside. Primarily I find the radar units help one from doing stupid **** at the wrong damn time.
#47
Safety Car
^^^Nailed It!
#48
Burning Brakes
I know it's reviving a couple year old thread - but I have the Uniden R3, Uniden R7 and had the Escort Max II. Just gave the Max II to the son-in-law a week ago. I won't give up my R3/R7's - they're beasts. Have
#49
Safety Car
I had my Escort 9500 when this thread started and still have it today. It's not longer supported by Escort, but I'll keep using it until it dies, it saves me daily
#50
Le Mans Master
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Valentine One Gen 2 just hit the streets. Upgrade over the awesome V1 Gen 1. I just ordered one. My Gen 1 is for sale with lots of accessories.
#53
Burning Brakes
Waze is awesome! I installed a new head unit with Waze functionality...what a blessing. There are a lot of people using this app...very handy!!
#54
Melting Slicks
V1 is very hard to beat:
- Boogy counter (works supurb with the directional arrows)
- Directional arrows (can see from where, possible multiple, signal is coming from)
- Upgradable (don't have to continuously buy the latest version, just send it to them for upgrades)
- Offers a concealed display (for stealth/professional looking installations)
- Offers industry standard/leading types of coverage
Well worth it!
- Boogy counter (works supurb with the directional arrows)
- Directional arrows (can see from where, possible multiple, signal is coming from)
- Upgradable (don't have to continuously buy the latest version, just send it to them for upgrades)
- Offers a concealed display (for stealth/professional looking installations)
- Offers industry standard/leading types of coverage
Well worth it!
#55
The more urban the area you drive in, the more Waze may be useful. It is entirely dependent on reporting by users (for other than fixed threats such as cameras). The more rural the area, the less Waze is a useful tool. In my neck of the woods, it is next to useless, due to lack of reporting.
The more rural (road tripping) your travels, the less Waze is useful. Not to be depended on exclusively.
#56
Burning Brakes
Waze is just one tool, like many other others in order to avoid the Revenue Collectors. No more or less (arguably) than other tools.
The more urban the area you drive in, the more Waze may be useful. It is entirely dependent on reporting by users (for other than fixed threats such as cameras). The more rural the area, the less Waze is a useful tool. In my neck of the woods, it is next to useless, due to lack of reporting.
The more rural (road tripping) your travels, the less Waze is useful. Not to be depended on exclusively.
The more urban the area you drive in, the more Waze may be useful. It is entirely dependent on reporting by users (for other than fixed threats such as cameras). The more rural the area, the less Waze is a useful tool. In my neck of the woods, it is next to useless, due to lack of reporting.
The more rural (road tripping) your travels, the less Waze is useful. Not to be depended on exclusively.
#57
Melting Slicks
I've used Waze on several long road trips and it works pretty well on interstates where there is usually enough traffic even in the sticks to keep the app updated. Low traffic secondary roads, not so much. Also, if the cop is smart enough to move his location frequently there is always a couple of minutes window where he's not been reported. I use a V1 as well, will either get it updated or buy one of the gen 2's but will probably wait ~6 months to get any early bugs out.
#58
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Exchange my V1 Gen 1 for V1 Gen 2 yesterday. Called them and should have by Wednesday next week. Lady that I talked to at Valentine asked me if I could behave myself until I receive my new V 1. We will see.
#59
Racer
You will love it. I've had the Gen 2 for about a week now. Huge upgrade over the V1. I'm lucky that I don't have to use K band in my area. No LEO's use it here, but I've been driving around with K band on and big L mode and it is extremely more quiet than the V1. Some vehicle BSM and stationary signs will still get through though. You should look up the Mike Valentine interview with Vortex, he goes into great detail about the Gen2.
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