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Old Aug 13, 2017 | 05:36 PM
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Suddenly, yesterday after out cruising around my reverse suddenly quit working. When i shift into reverse, it feels like the gears aren't completely engaging. When i let off the clutch in reverse, it pops out of gear and makes a terrible grinding noise. All other gears shift fine. The car is a 2010 grand sport couple 6 speed manual with 67k miles on it. Earlier in the day reverse worked fine, then suddenly when i returned home to back in the driveway suddenly it doesn't work. Could the linkage be misaligned somehow? Doesn't seem like it would be a clutch issue since the other gears shift fine and clutch is working. I am hoping this isn't going to require a complete trans rebuild...
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Old Aug 13, 2017 | 08:11 PM
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The times I have read this before it was the linkage having come loose. That or the box bushings are worn badly. Remove the console and check it out.
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Agree with above as one possibility. Here are a couple others.

Since it's easy to do, I suggest checking the Reverse Lockout Solenoid fuse in the engine compartment. It's #13, 25 amp. Frankly I don't know if a blown fuse would cause your symptoms but like I said it's easy to check.

If that's okay then it could be the Reverse Lockout Solenoid and here is a thread on DIY replacement:

https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...-solenoid.html
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Old Aug 14, 2017 | 09:37 AM
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Originally Posted by RicK T
Agree with above as one possibility. Here are a couple others.

Since it's easy to do, I suggest checking the Reverse Lockout Solenoid fuse in the engine compartment. It's #13, 25 amp. Frankly I don't know if a blown fuse would cause your symptoms but like I said it's easy to check.

If that's okay then it could be the Reverse Lockout Solenoid and here is a thread on DIY replacement:

https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...-solenoid.html
Regarding the lockout solenoid, i did check the fuse and it checks out OK. Seems the lockout solenoid is working because with the ignition off, i can not shift into the reverse position. With ignition on or engine running I can shift over to the reverse position but it doesn't want to completely engage. I thought the solenoid was to lock you out from the reverse position altogether? I'll pull the console apart when I have a chance next and see if there is anything going on in there that is out of adjustment. Just keeping my fingers crossed that it's something simple and not a bent shift fork or busted synchro.
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Old Aug 14, 2017 | 01:50 PM
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My 06 MN6 LS2 about six months after I bought it, Same thing goes forward just fine but will not go into reverse. it's not the lock out, there is some kind of "pin" on top {inside} the tranny, it moves or breaks and it WILL NOT go into reverse, My dealership did not want their guy "rebuilding" the tranny so GM put an 07 tranny in, it doesn't have to be "rebuilt" but it is going to have to come out.

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Originally Posted by CMY SIX
My 06 MN6 LS2 about six months after I bought it, Same thing goes forward just fine but will not go into reverse. it's not the lock out, there is some kind of "pin" on top {inside} the tranny, it moves or breaks and it WILL NOT go into reverse, My dealership did not want their guy "rebuilding" the tranny so GM put an 07 tranny in, it doesn't have to be "rebuilt" but it is going to have to come out.
Great, that's what i was hoping i wouldn't have to do. Do you happen to know if this is fixable without completely disassembling the trans? What irritates me as well is i would have the occasional grinding when shifting into 5th gear. I took it to the dealer when it was still under warranty, and of course they came back with "no trouble found". I changed the fluid after that myself to redline D4 and seemed to shift smoother, but would still get the occasional 5th gear grind. I wonder if these could have been related? Experience tells me yes...
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Old Aug 14, 2017 | 08:48 PM
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pulled the console out this evening and checked the linkage. Adjusted per the "froggy method" and no change in reverse. I'll check the lockout solenoid as a last ditch effort but i'm pretty sure the trans is f*****. It begins to roll if I let the clutch out very slowly, but as soon as it meets some resistance, grinds in the worst way. Acts like it's just barely engaging, i'm guessing there is probably a mess inside there.
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Originally Posted by cyberGS10
pulled the console out this evening and checked the linkage. Adjusted per the "froggy method" and no change in reverse. I'll check the lockout solenoid as a last ditch effort but i'm pretty sure the trans is f*****. It begins to roll if I let the clutch out very slowly, but as soon as it meets some resistance, grinds in the worst way. Acts like it's just barely engaging, i'm guessing there is probably a mess inside there.
Maybe pull the drain plug for a second and see what comes out. I hope that isn't the case.
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It's usually a sign your clutch is worn, the hydraulic cylinder is bad, or you need to change the hydraulic fluid for the clutch. You usually will start having grinding going into reverse when the clutch isn't working properly. Maybe something to do with no syncro's on the reverse gear? Not sure.
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Old Aug 30, 2017 | 09:28 PM
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Finally had a chance to get the car up in the air tonight. Drained the trans fluid, looks and smells perfect. Didn't see any metal shavings or chunks of anything in the fluid. I guess i'll look at the clutch hydraulic fluid next and see if that makes a difference. I may also check out the reverse lockout solenoid and see if that is acting up. Really hoping i don't have to pull this thing out.
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Old Oct 3, 2017 | 09:32 PM
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Pulled the trans and dropped it off at D&D performance last week. Apparently the reverse gear and synchro were toast along with a bent shift fork and fork pads destroyed. No idea how this all happened. They also said 5th gear showed signs of grinding and it will need to be replaced as well. They suggested it could be a clutch issue that caused this to happen. My next question is, what other "while i'm in there" items are there I should take care of while i have this thing all apart?
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That would depend on your goals? Are you staying stock power? Are you looking to race the car?

I would only replace what actually failed if it were mine and it were stock or close to stock.
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Old Oct 3, 2017 | 10:42 PM
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That would depend on your goals? Are you staying stock power? Are you looking to race the car?

I would only replace what actually failed if it were mine and it were stock or close to stock.
Yeah car is stock, i'd like to take it to some autocross events in the future. Maybe 1 or 2 a year. Car is a lot of fun just how it is, so don't really plan on modifying it. Just wondering about the clutch, it has 68k on it now and i figure it would be easier to do while i'm in there. Clutch seems to operate fine but i don't want to have to pull all this apart to do it in the future if needed.
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Originally Posted by cyberGS10
Yeah car is stock, i'd like to take it to some autocross events in the future. Maybe 1 or 2 a year. Car is a lot of fun just how it is, so don't really plan on modifying it. Just wondering about the clutch, it has 68k on it now and i figure it would be easier to do while i'm in there. Clutch seems to operate fine but i don't want to have to pull all this apart to do it in the future if needed.
A clutch and slave cylinder are pretty cheap if you install stock parts. It would be very easy to do right now. Maybe install a Katech remote bleeder in the slave as well. It sure makes a fluid change easy.
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Originally Posted by cyberGS10
Just wondering about the clutch, it has 68k on it now and i figure it would be easier to do while i'm in there. Clutch seems to operate fine but i don't want to have to pull all this apart to do it in the future if needed.
Precisely why replacing now's a wise choice.
With internals repaired a new clutch/disc means care free miles for minimally another 70K.

Installing a remote bleeder now's also is a smart move.
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