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Old Oct 5, 2017 | 08:01 PM
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How many ways are there to rid of the skip shift? I just bought 2008 Z06 and it had skip shift eliminator. However, occasionally it doesn't work. I need to find out where it is and try to figure out if there is anything wrong. Before I do anything, anyone can help me what to look for or if there are multiple ways to eliminate the skip shift?
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How many ways are there to rid of the skip shift? I just bought 2008 Z06 and it had skip shift eliminator. However, occasionally it doesn't work. I need to find out where it is and try to figure out if there is anything wrong. Before I do anything, anyone can help me what to look for or if there are multiple ways to eliminate the skip shift?
3 ways:

1. a fuse install and this could be the cause of an intermittent failure.

2. A circuit resistor, mounted into the harness as it enters the transmission. Not likely the cause, but not impossible either; more reliable than #1.

3. Tune it out, which, if done, will not fail.

Are you sure it is failing, or are you just seeing the dash light occasionally?

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Yes it is failing intermittently. Originally I didn’t even noticed the dash light is on as I almost always pay attention to HUD. I just couldn’t get it into 2nd and kept going into 4th. So I pay closer attention and the dash light is on everytimg it does it. I wanna say it happens about 5-10% of the time.
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Old Oct 6, 2017 | 07:20 AM
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Yes it is failing intermittently. Originally I didn’t even noticed the dash light is on as I almost always pay attention to HUD. I just couldn’t get it into 2nd and kept going into 4th. So I pay closer attention and the dash light is on everytimg it does it. I wanna say it happens about 5-10% of the time.
The fuses are notorious for failing because they are a resistor fuse. Some who have used this method just buy these fuses 10 at a time and replace them.

The transmission bypass harness is basically a resistor built into the circuit and it could fail as any resistor could, but I have never heard of one failing.

The tune option cannot fail.
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Old Oct 6, 2017 | 08:16 AM
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The fuses are notorious for failing because they are a resistor fuse. Some who have used this method just buy these fuses 10 at a time and replace them.

The transmission bypass harness is basically a resistor built into the circuit and it could fail as any resistor could, but I have never heard of one failing.

The tune option cannot fail.
Tuning the skip shift out of the system is the best method, and is the only one that does not fail.
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Rethinking this, if the fuse blows or the resistor at the trans fails, either of those two would cause an open circuit and, not only would the skip shift fail to engage, but a failure notice would probably be deployed in the form of a CEL or DIC message.

I can only think of two reasons for an intermittent operation:

First - You're observing the normal operation of the skip shift and NOT an intermittent failure of a bypass. The skip shift needs a number of parameters met to activate. It is not an "every time" circuit.

Second - A resistor fuse is installed with the wrong value which is so close to the minimum voltage needed to activate the trans solenoid that sometimes it engages and other times it almost engages.

Here is a screen capture of the parameters that govern CAGS in the tune. All of the thresholds need to be hit before CAGS engages. I'm beginning to think you are observing a normally operating CAGS with NO bypass intervention.

SIDE NOTE: To eliminate CAGS via tune, you only need to modify one parameter to a value that is unattainable. Tuners usually pick ECT and set it to its maximum in the tune field which is something like 340*F. Since that temp is never reached, CAGS never engages. ECT is what I did when I tuned mine out.


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How many ways are there to rid of the skip shift? I just bought 2008 Z06 and it had skip shift eliminator. However, occasionally it doesn't work. I need to find out where it is and try to figure out if there is anything wrong. Before I do anything, anyone can help me what to look for or if there are multiple ways to eliminate the skip shift?
Is it actually preventing you from shifting into second, or you're just seeing the 1->4 light up in the instrument cluster? If just the latter, that's normal at least with the fuse-type eliminator.
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Originally Posted by Andrie
How many ways are there to rid of the skip shift? I just bought 2008 Z06 and it had skip shift eliminator. However, occasionally it doesn't work. I need to find out where it is and try to figure out if there is anything wrong. Before I do anything, anyone can help me what to look for or if there are multiple ways to eliminate the skip shift?


I've been using since jan / 2017, the skip shirt bypass fuse from corvette mods ( p/n #1011 ). this replaces the stock #10 fuse.
you still get skip shift light though. otherwise works as directed.


good luck!


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