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So currently i am working with Chuck of COW for his cow booster and e-tune on my supercharged 06 base a6.
It is almost finished
I will do a formal review of what it has done to my car and how i feel about it once its finalized but here is a 3 picture simple explanation of how the car feels like throughout its stages so far
1: Stock 06 base automatic
2: Supercharged 06 base automatic with 547 rwhp
3: Supercharged 06 base automatic with COW booster and e-tune
Will keep you posted , hope not with a pic of my car on a tree
No dyno can correct a tune by someone that does not know what they are doing.
I live in Dallas. We have some of the best known tuners in the country here, and they have proven their capabilities over and over again. I'll stick with them.
Last edited by Corvette_Ed; 04-24-2018 at 02:44 PM.
Just to clear some confusion if I can. Dyno is tool that a tuner can use. A quality tune has many many many deciding factors; but ultimately the end result is the important part. You can tune looking at data using many tools. It cannot be argued the viability and use a tuner gets from a dyno when used properly. Same can be done on road, but with drawbacks just like a dyno has drawbacks. There is a reason you tune a car on dyno and then take a test drive on road. Not all findings on dyno apply to road. Also no tuner will take you to the bleeding edge of timing map without making user jump on dyno for a boosted car. And if you live in Dallas, Texas you are much better off visiting local for many reasons. But many people don't have this luxury.
I don't think Chuck was implying that all tuners do a bad job. And as such you have good options in Dallas (LG rings a bell).
Just to clear some confusion if I can. Dyno is tool that a tuner can use. A quality tune has many many many deciding factors; but ultimately the end result is the important part. You can tune looking at data using many tools. It cannot be argued the viability and use a tuner gets from a dyno when used properly. Same can be done on road, but with drawbacks just like a dyno has drawbacks. There is a reason you tune a car on dyno and then take a test drive on road. Not all findings on dyno apply to road. Also no tuner will take you to the bleeding edge of timing map without making user jump on dyno for a boosted car. And if you live in Dallas, Texas you are much better off visiting local for many reasons. But many people don't have this luxury.
I don't think Chuck was implying that all tuners do a bad job. And as such you have good options in Dallas (LG rings a bell).
Thank you..... I'm glad you follow what I mean. Having a dyno DOES NOT qualify you as a professional tuner
and the use of a dyno in no way makes someone elses tune better than mine.
Having tuned thousands of Corvettes both on and off the dyno, I can tell you with absolute certainty that a "DYNO TUNED"
Corvette will in most cases NOT reproduce the dyno power or AFR, KR, IAT, etc numbers on the street that it does on the dyno.
Simply because..... They are NOT the same scenario.
My point in all this is that consumers should understand that the DYNO or the "mail order tune" should NOT be the deciding
factor more that the TUNER himself should be qualifier.
To the guy in Dallas..... You have to realize that I might just be the tuner for your local shop... A point to consider.
I do lots of remote tuning for shops all over the world.... The tune in YOUR car might possibly be MINE.
In recent years, the bulk of my mail order tuning business has been RE-TUNING forced induction cars for cusotmers
who were disappointed with their local shop.
Honestly, I want no part of 1,000 + HP mail order tunes, but 98% of what's out there fits into what I can do REMOTELY
better than many shops do IN HOUSE on their Dyno.
There's PLENTY of decent shops out there that do a good job, but from how often people call me to fix up their tunes remotely,
there are days that it feels like I'm the only guy in the business. Obviously, most people DON'T call when they are happy
with what they got...... I just happen to get all the complaints.
Again, the point of the story..... Dynos are NOT magical and much of the time their owners are not either.
The dyno is just a check for results of what the tuner has done. I don't think any of the dynos are an accurate indicator but they are useful as a tool just like the tuner's laptop.
To the guy in Dallas..... You have to realize that I might just be the tuner for your local shop... A point to consider.
I don't have to "realize" anything. I know for a fact that you're not. And to make things completely clear as to where I'm coming from, I have realized that you have absolutely horrible customer service skills, treat forum members like crap, and will never get a dime of my money because of this. If you were the best tuner in the country, I would find out who was number two and get them to do the job for me.
To use your own "woman" euphemism, I prefer to deal with the woman I've built a relationship with in person rather than a mail order bride.
A tune may not last forever, especially if you make a mod to your car after getting a tune. This happened to me, and not-so-coincidentally Chuck/CoW was involved both times.
He installed my E-Force supercharger six years ago. Tuning it was a a real challenge for him because I wanted to keep the stock exhaust. Then two years ago I had Chuck replace the original radiator with a DeWitt and the stock exhaust with a set of NPP. Those threw the original tune right out the window. We didn't have time to do a full-up re-tune with a wideband sensor at that time, but that's planned for my next visit this summer.
A tune may not last forever, especially if you make a mod to your car after getting a tune. This happened to me, and not-so-coincidentally Chuck/CoW was involved both times.
He installed my E-Force supercharger six years ago. Tuning it was a a real challenge for him because I wanted to keep the stock exhaust. Then two years ago I had Chuck replace the original radiator with a DeWitt and the stock exhaust with a set of NPP. Those threw the original tune right out the window. We didn't have time to do a full-up re-tune with a wideband sensor at that time, but that's planned for my next visit this summer.
Go with whoever you trust.
Get that knee better!!! and come on out for another visit!
I live in Dallas. We have some of the best known tuners in the country here, and they have proven their capabilities over and over again. I'll stick with them.
04-24-2018, 04:53 AM
The COW factor
Dyno tune only for me when I get an A&A installed.
and many people are now starting to realize that.
