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Old Sep 26, 2019 | 11:04 AM
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My 2006 Corvette's LS2 Z51 Convertible with 165K miles on it. According to my mechanic, "the engine is shot." It is all because the oil pump broke.

I thought these engines were bullet proof.

I am very much a DIY person. Would it be very difficult to purchase a replacement online and install myself?

If this is pretty complex about how much does it cost labor wise?

The other option is a rebuild. Would this be less expensive? I would probably use it as an opportunity to add more HP


It should be noted I have Long Tube Headers and a FAST 102 Intake Manifold with a new engine harness.


I would appreciate any feedback that you may provide. I have had this vette since 2010, picked it up used. It has a high sentimental value to me. Id like to run it till the wheels fall off. I usually do repairs myself where I can as I was much better off financially in 2010. It was my lifelong dream to buy one of these. Its my baby

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The Engine Is Shot ???? Thats a broad statement.. Heads are not shot....Block is not shot,, unless you drove it a long ways without no oil pressure. Did you sling a rod out of it??? You need to explain exactly what he told you is shot. Manifold, Starter, Balancer, timing chain cover, etc. are not shot. He needs to give you options as to which direction to go. Short block, rebuild, or crate motor. You have to make the decision, its your money. I can tell you one thing........That car is not shot.
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165000 mile 14 year old Corvette is not worth spending thousands installing a replacement engine. Just me would throw it on Craigslist cut your losses. Use the money saved finding a clean unmodified C6.
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The Engine Is Shot ???? Thats a broad statement.. Heads are not shot....Block is not shot,, unless you drove it a long ways without no oil pressure. Did you sling a rod out of it??? You need to explain exactly what he told you is shot. Manifold, Starter, Balancer, timing chain cover, etc. are not shot. He needs to give you options as to which direction to go. Short block, rebuild, or crate motor. You have to make the decision, its your money. I can tell you one thing........That car is not shot.
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Old Sep 26, 2019 | 12:00 PM
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looks like an opportunity to swap the LS-2 for an LS-3 especially since you love your car and intend to keep it. If the LS-2 isn't in too bad of condition, it could be rebuilt and sold to help offset the expenses. Your long tubes will still fit and you won't need the Fast 102. My only concern would be the ECM so you have your work cut out researching the details but overall it shouldn't be too much more than that.
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Old Sep 26, 2019 | 12:18 PM
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looks like an opportunity to swap the LS-2 for an LS-3 especially since you love your car and intend to keep it. If the LS-2 isn't in too bad of condition, it could be rebuilt and sold to help offset the expenses. Your long tubes will still fit and you won't need the Fast 102. My only concern would be the ECM so you have your work cut out researching the details but overall it shouldn't be too much more than that.
Your only concern would be the ECM? Might be a better opportunity to swap in a LS9 yea LS9.Your headers could be modded to fit.
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Old Sep 26, 2019 | 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Josephu
The Engine Is Shot ???? Thats a broad statement.. Heads are not shot....Block is not shot,, unless you drove it a long ways without no oil pressure. Did you sling a rod out of it??? You need to explain exactly what he told you is shot. Manifold, Starter, Balancer, timing chain cover, etc. are not shot. He needs to give you options as to which direction to go. Short block, rebuild, or crate motor. You have to make the decision, its your money. I can tell you one thing........That car is not shot.
I agree. Could be all it needs is a new oil pump, but we need more information. My nephew called me and said the mechanic says his car is dead. I went to look at it, the throw out bearing was bad. Saved him a ton of money because he almost gave them the go ahead to replace the motor. Make sure you get all the information to make an informed decision. How well versed are you in working on cars? Being a "do-it-yourselfer" doesn't qualify as someone that understands how an engine works or what it needs to be repaired.
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Old Sep 26, 2019 | 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by h8snow
Your only concern would be the ECM? Might be a better opportunity to swap in a LS9 yea LS9.Your headers could be modded to fit.
My thought is he currently has a wet sump motor. The LS-9, as much fun as it would be to have one, would entail a heck of a lot more work setting up a dry sump system and all of the cooling needed. Even an LS-7 with its dry sump would be a lot more work unless you converted it to a wet sump motor first.
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Originally Posted by VMI-2002
...I thought these engines were bullet proof...
Not when they don't have any oil going through them.

Due to the sentimental value, and your mechanical ability, the best course of action might be to pull the engine, disassemble it, and find what really does need to be replaced.
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The LS2 can be rebuilt if the block isn't damaged. That would be alot less expensive than buying an LS2 engine, even used, unless you tear it down, you don't know what your getting. At least if you get yours rebuilt, you know what you have, and it is guaranteed by most rebuilding shop.
My son has an engine rebuilding shop and they have rebuilt many LS engines in the past.
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I will stay with my original opinion just sell it off. Take the proceeds around $6000 for a 165000 mile questionable C6. $8000-$10000 will you will spend trying to repair add a few thousand more and you can find a perfect uncobbled clean C6.
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A GM replacement engine installed by the dealer will cost about $8,500 out the door. It does not make financial sense to put thousands of dollars in a 13 year old 165K mile Corvette. Unless the engine has major non-repairable damage, do a basic repair and move it on down the line. Go find a nice low mile Corvette in your favorite color.
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I will stay with my original opinion just sell it off. Take the proceeds around $6000 for a 165000 mile questionable C6. $8000-$10000 will you will spend trying to repair add a few thousand more and you can find a perfect uncobbled clean C6.
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A GM replacement engine installed by the dealer will cost about $8,500 out the door. It does not make financial sense to put thousands of dollars in a 13 year old 165K mile Corvette. Unless the engine has major non-repairable damage, do a basic repair and move it on down the line. Go find a nice low mile Corvette in your favorite color.
If that's what you guys think, then sell me your broken stuff. I bet I could fix the OP's car for under $3,000.00 - and that's assuming it has a rod through broken block.
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Threads like these really show who the car guys are, and who the posers are.

I agree with the others, you need more info on whats shot. Worst case scenario, a take out motor is cheapish. Realistically, more than limely you need a bottom end rebuild, use it as a chance to bore it out a bit if the cylinder walls are scuffed up bad.

Oh, and get a new mechanic. This guy doesnt have your best interests in mind.

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Originally Posted by maverickmk
If that's what you guys think, then sell me your broken stuff. I bet I could fix the OP's car for under $3,000.00 - and that's assuming it has a rod through broken block.
Would cost half of that $3000 just to repair the worn out seats.
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Originally Posted by cmonkey713
A GM replacement engine installed by the dealer will cost about $8,500 out the door. It does not make financial sense to put thousands of dollars in a 13 year old 165K mile Corvette. Unless the engine has major non-repairable damage, do a basic repair and move it on down the line. Go find a nice low mile Corvette in your favorite color.
Why would anyone go to a dealership to get replacement? That is the most expensive option. Get a second opinion and find out the real problem before dumping the car that you like so much.
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Originally Posted by 4SUMERZ
The LS2 can be rebuilt if the block isn't damaged. That would be alot less expensive than buying an LS2 engine, even used, unless you tear it down, you don't know what your getting. At least if you get yours rebuilt, you know what you have, and it is guaranteed by most rebuilding shop.
My son has an engine rebuilding shop and they have rebuilt many LS engines in the past.
MY '05 developed a lifter problem at 125,000 miles.

We monitored it and it never lost noticeable power, never blew up, but it did get to the point where it was embarrassing while sitting at a light.

At 175,000 miles, we decided to fix or replace. At that time, (2013), rebuilding it, or replacing it with a crate engine were the same price (not doing the labor ourselves). Putting in an LS3 crate engine was practically the same cost, so that's what we did.

Havent regretted it one bit!
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Rebuild with a stroker kit.
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Not when they don't have any oil going through them.
Yup.
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Old Sep 29, 2019 | 12:10 PM
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Find out what you're dealing with here, VMI.
Report back when you've learned exactly WTH failed.
Speculation isn't needed, facts are.
G/L, update please.
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Originally Posted by owc6
MY '05 developed a lifter problem at 125,000 miles.

We monitored it and it never lost noticeable power, never blew up, but it did get to the point where it was embarrassing while sitting at a light.

At 175,000 miles, we decided to fix or replace. At that time, (2013), rebuilding it, or replacing it with a crate engine were the same price (not doing the labor ourselves). Putting in an LS3 crate engine was practically the same cost, so that's what we did.

Havent regretted it one bit!
what was the cost ?im in the same position except in 2021.i have a c6 base07 ls2 w/ a&a vortex blower w/ 135,000miles . a rebuild shop told me 10grand to rebuild with not the worst but not the best parts. (reason is im not shitting cash like i wish i was)but i do see value going up on c6’s what do yal think ?could use more opinions.
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