Harness bar
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I am not to worried bout that I don’t attend many track events anymore. I’m just sick of the crappy seatbelt that locks on me and the seats don’t hug to well either.
Safety Car
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just my .02 but the last thing you want on the street is a 4,5,6 point harness with you strapped in tight and no Hans device. its a recipe for disaster if your ever in a wreck. your head will snap forward and back with little to no body movement.
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I’m not gonna make it tight like I’m on a track, that’s why I want to rid myself of the factory belt. It locks at random without any reason just cruising. Besides only thing I ever added on the track was a helmet so I’m sure I’ll be ok. When my seatbelt locks I can not even move forward to control any features like my a/c. I have a older 5 point I’ll use but don’t plan to use the crouch strap.
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You should just repair your factory seat belt imo. Using 5 points without the anti sub belt is about the worst thing you can do. You will slide down and break your back if something happens.
Probably cheaper too.
Probably cheaper too.
Last edited by FAUEE; Apr 2, 2020 at 04:44 PM.
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Force = Mass x velocity squared
The biggest reason not to use a race harness on the street is they are uncomfortable. YMMV
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Meh... you're not hitting walls at 200 mph on the street. Your street car also has huge crumple zones. Not to mention one of the big reasons racing drivers were breaking necks was the weight of the helmet was greatly increasing the force.
Force = Mass x velocity squared
The biggest reason not to use a race harness on the street is they are uncomfortable. YMMV
Force = Mass x velocity squared
The biggest reason not to use a race harness on the street is they are uncomfortable. YMMV
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cheaper I’d agree but the look and the as for safety if you can use it on a track And it checks out on safety checks I’m sure it will do just fine on the street. I won’t be hitting the wall doing nearly the speed of a track car.
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We have already explained how what you're wanting to do is not "just as safe", using 4 points on the street is asking for trouble. But you seem to have made your mind up already. We can be of no further help to you.
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You guys are really discussing - I wonder about a harness on the street as well. I would tend to agree, if safe for the track, plenty for the street, but I have nothing to back this up with, other than you are not going to be moving anywhere in an accident.. 
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Originally Posted by Hitman_396
You guys are really discussing - I wonder about a harness on the street as well. I would tend to agree, if safe for the track, plenty for the street, but I have nothing to back this up with, other than you are not going to be moving anywhere in an accident..
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Safety Car
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Originally Posted by Hitman_396
Sure you can, we play ping pong daily. Seriously what is the difference, your head will move even more with a helmet on! 
Melting Slicks
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With a helmet and harness you can use a hans and control the movement. Without those essentials you restrict your body and allow only the head to move and snap back. With standard belts your body is allowed some movement to keep your head from snapping back as severe as a harness setup would have. Race setups have other features in conjunction w/ a harness that you don't have on the street
So having the stock seat belts in a race seat setup is very interesting, I'm surprised you don't see more of this, all the pics I have floating around with race seats don't seem to retain the stock seat belts..
Unless you're willing to play the odds.. 