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Old May 3, 2020 | 02:20 AM
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I just bought a 2012 grand sport with pfadt headers with catted x pipe and intake. The dealer loooked at the car for a pre purchase inspection and codes came up about the 02 sensor, but I think the engine light wasn’t on when I bought the car after pre purchase inspection. 4 hours into driving it home, engine light comes on. Head to auto zone and the 02 sensor and other info comes back on related to the headers I’m thinking, car has 46k on it and in amazing shape. Love this car and want to take good care of it.





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Do you know if a tune was done when the headers were installed? A tune is needed for a lean condition & removal of the stock front cats
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Do you know if a tune was done when the headers were installed? A tune is needed for a lean condition & removal of the stock front cats
Most headers also need o2 extensions.
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Old May 3, 2020 | 08:58 AM
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Adjustments need to be made in the tune with HPTuners for the rear 02 sensors and you do not need to remove the cats.The rear 02 sensors will not be reading the correct numbers that they need to see due to the cats not being in their original position.Check with your local tuner to make adjustments in your tune for this issue to go away
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What codes are you getting? P0420 and P0430 are pretty common with headers.
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Originally Posted by irok

Adjustments need to be made in the tune with HPTuners for the rear 02 sensors and you do not need to remove the cats.The rear 02 sensors will not be reading the correct numbers that they need to see due to the cats not being in their original position.Check with your local tuner to make adjustments in your tune for this issue to go away
To the OP ..... This is the correct info above

You need to take the car to someone (a tuner) that has the HPTuners software and have him delete the rear O2 sensor codes so you won't get a check engine light.

But, it won't hurt a thing driving the car until you get this done. Most people that install headers don't even re-install the rear (after cat) O2 sensors ... they are not needed, but you still need a tuner to make that check engine light go out, and stay out.
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Originally Posted by 449er
Do you know if a tune was done when the headers were installed? A tune is needed for a lean condition & removal of the stock front cats
the previous owner was meticulous about his car and told me it definately was, I can insert the codes I got from auto zone

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What codes are you getting? P0420 and P0430 are pretty common with headers.
these are the codes

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See my response in the scan and tune section.
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Since it probably wouldn’t pass a smog test, take it back to the dealer
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