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Old Oct 25, 2023 | 03:00 AM
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Originally Posted by ilovheros
I have up and down rev matching on my 2020 Aprilia. My 2016 Ape only had clutchless up-shift. The up and down clutchless shifting has revolutionized my Track riding and is very fun on the street too. I am so much smoother, somewhat faster and safer with this technology. I love it!
I think at least for me (Novice Vet driver) this will do the same for my driving.
I wonder if we could get enough people interested to get a group buy going? At $520. the price is actually quite good though.
I’m in for a group buy.
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Old Jan 1, 2024 | 10:38 AM
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Thanks for the write up! Very interested in your settings. Sent you a PM!

Originally Posted by C6_Prodigy
I installed the Xineering downshift blip module earlier this year and wanted to share my feedback since there isn't a lot of information about it yet.

Link: http://xineering.com/dbw.html

The downshift blip module installs on manual cars and gives you automatic rev matching when you downshift. You can program how aggressive the blip is and a few other parameters that are in the provided instructions. You can also turn it on and off with a toggle switch they provide. I found this device useful because of the spacing between the brake and the gas. I never had issues heel-toe shifting my other cars but I did with the C6. With this module, I find I have a lot more fun with the car on backroads. I imagine the track will be where it really shines. Hearing the quick rev match when going through a tunnel, or anytime really, is frankly just a cool sound that adds to my enjoyment of the car.


It's turned on in this photo, the switch is lit up blue.


It's fairly easy to install. It is largely plug and play, but you need to tap into +12V power. They include everything you need to install it, including the positap to firmly connect to power.

I mounted the blip module under the passenger side of the dash and mounted the switch where the cigarette lighter goes. The programming wire feeds into my glove box.










Mounting the module:

I mounted the module by velcroing it to this metal box. It's on the far right side under the passenger side of the dash, you have to remove the panel with the footwell light to access it.



Mounted up closer.

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Mounting the switch:


I bought a replacement cigarette lighter outlet which came with the tool to remove the stock outlet. Then I cut the back half of the outlet off so I could attach the button and feed wires to it.



Outlet cut and switch pressed in.


Switch pressed into the cigarette lighter outlet


Wiring. I removed the center dash piece to get to this point.



The switch snaps into place.



Xineering exchanged almost 40 emails with me starting with questions before I bought the module and even provided me with custom firmware to address some tweaks I wanted to make. Their customer service is top notch. Best I've worked with in a long time.

I can share my settings and answer any detailed questions, but that's the gist of it. I would very much recommend it now that I've got it tuned the way I like it. It just takes some trial and error.
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Old Jan 1, 2024 | 01:19 PM
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^ replied via PM but I thought I'd share my settings for anyone else who wants to try. Interested to see what improvements others can make:




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Wanted to update my old thread after doing my first track day with it. It's fun on the streets but it shines on the track. The settings I shared in my last post are what I ran and it was perfect. I loved being able to focus on waiting as long as I could to brake and then just clutching and shifting smoothly into the turns. The event was called "Track Cross," which is like auto-x but on a track. Here was my best run of the day.

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That looks like a lot of fun!
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Old Jun 2, 2024 | 11:34 PM
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Originally Posted by C6_Prodigy
Wanted to update my old thread after doing my first track day with it. It's fun on the streets but it shines on the track. The settings I shared in my last post are what I ran and it was perfect. I loved being able to focus on waiting as long as I could to brake and then just clutching and shifting smoothly into the turns. The event was called "Track Cross," which is like auto-x but on a track. Here was my best run of the day.

https://youtu.be/It09dDyrFlg?si=jO7CQAOnKbGmW_R7
What is your setup for taking video while you’re driving?
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Old Jun 3, 2024 | 09:46 AM
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Originally Posted by lilcuda
What is your setup for taking video while you’re driving?
I have a lap timer on a RAM suction mount that I normally use but I took it off the mount and put a RAM X-grip to hold my phone for the last session. No pictures of the phone setup but here is the location that I have it with the lap timer it its place.
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Old Jun 30, 2024 | 04:53 PM
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I finally took the plunge and did this mod on Friday. It was quite the challenge for me at nearly 59 years old! The space you have to work in is very small. But I got it done. Still pretty sore in places. My advice is to take up yoga before you do this mod! LOL!

I took inspiration from @C6_Prodigy with regard to the placement of the module and the on/off switch. I did a couple things differently, though. I mounted the module with the connector pointing toward the driver’s side of the car rather than down. I felt I needed a bit more slack in the cabling. My car has a telescopic steering wheel, so there are quite a few obstacles. See the pics below. It made routing the clutch/brake cable quite challenging. You can’t see much in the pic, but I’ll post it anyway. With the on/off switch, I found that with the lighter housing acting as a bushing in the plastic trim ring, the whole switch assembly would not snap into the console, so I removed the cut down lighter housing and put the switch directly into the plastic trim piece. It seems tight enough.

I routed the cabling the same - under the console, in front the area by the ashtray. I did not take pics of that because I was really focused on trying to finish up. It’s pretty self explanatory once you get it apart. The cables are also tucked under the carpet. I took power from an add a circuit fuse tap and for the ground, I used a Posi tap on the cigarette lighter ground wire.

I used the YouTube video from MGW Shifters to show me how to remove the console. The one part that was a PITA was that the factory used too much loctite on the shift **** bolt and it melted the plastic chrome ring for the shift boot to the shifter shaft. I had to peel down the boot and carefully use channel locks to get it to spin and the I had to reattach the boot with nylon ties.

I took it for a quick drive yesterday and it needs some tweaking for sure. I dialed the throttle setting back to 30% from the default 50% with no other changes, but I will definitely have to play with the settings more to dial it in. I hope to have a street setting and a track setting.

One big improvement needed on this unit is they need to put abrasion protection on the cables that go between the clutch and brake sensors. There is a lot of stuff under there that could wear through a wire. It took a long time to figure out how to get those routed so that doesn’t happen. I plan to email Xineering about that.

I still have to put the under dash panels back on. I was too wiped out to finish it on Friday.

Here’s some pics. Hopefully they help.




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Old Jun 30, 2024 | 05:13 PM
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Glad you got it! Definitely email Xineering with your thoughts. They were very receptive to feedback when I was installing mine. Good call on turning the module sideways. I don't know why I didn't think of that, but it's velcroed on, so I can just take it off and turn it a quarter turn. I'd be interested in your settings once you get it dialed in to see where you land.
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Originally Posted by C6_Prodigy
Glad you got it! Definitely email Xineering with your thoughts. They were very receptive to feedback when I was installing mine. Good call on turning the module sideways. I don't know why I didn't think of that, but it's velcroed on, so I can just take it off and turn it a quarter turn. I'd be interested in your settings once you get it dialed in to see where you land.
I was going to ask you about the firmware changes you mentioned in your post. Can you share those? Also, your settings you posted are what you still are running?

One other observation I forgot to mention - if I have it turned on and I’m sitting at a red light with my foot on the brake, if I then push in the clutch to put it in gear, it blips the throttle. It’s just something you have to get used to if you are playing on the street.
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The firmware is not something I think they want floating around so I am hesitant to share it, but the only thing it changed was the brake position amount to trigger the blip. If your brake pedal triggers the blip at a comfortable level then there's no change needed. When you email them, you can ask them for the brake position voltage you want it to trigger and they'll give you a version that works for you. Mine seemed way different than others. You can get the voltage reading by running diagnostic mode while connected to the module on your phone or computer. You can see the voltage reading change the more you press the pedal.

I found that I can't break the habit of accidentally triggering a blip when on the street so I turn it off and on quite frequently when I'm in the mood to use it. I even left it off at the track until I was at the starting line waiting to go.
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Here’s a better picture of the driver’s side.



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