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Old Nov 4, 2024 | 09:24 PM
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Ok so I switched out my shift **** today with a simple black ball from WCC and I definitely have the stock shifter now that I've looked into the boot. But this thing is like a bolt action, it shifts great. Any idea what mods would do that? I bought it about a month ago, a used base 2011 with 57xxx miles.
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I have a S/C'd LS7 powered coupe and installed a Six Shooter Short Throw Shifter. Had an MGW and something just wasn't right about it. The Six Shooter is much better IMHO, and cost much less than the MGW, and I have never looked back.....just my 2 cents worth.
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I used to have an MGW in my GS. It is an extremely nice shifter but can be a bit too notchy for many people.

Check out TMOD Customs. They refurbish your existing lower box with upgraded bushings and bearings. You can also get an upgraded shifter ball bushing. Here is the direct link to the upgraded lower box: https://tmodcustoms.com/products/upgraded-factory-boxes

You just use your existing shifter.

It really tightens up everything.

If you have a base Corvette, another upgrade is to replace the upper shift lever with one from a Z06 or GS as those are a shorter shifter.
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Old Nov 7, 2024 | 06:26 AM
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Most people who change out the OEM shifter seem to go with MGW shifter
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Old Nov 7, 2024 | 09:45 AM
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I'm surprised to see the word "notchy" regarding the MGW. That was far from my experience. Of course, I'm sure it depends on the configuration, but the shifter with their race **** was absolutely phenomenal and could easily move between gears with very little effort.


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Old Nov 7, 2024 | 10:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Spaceme1117
I used to have an MGW in my GS. It is an extremely nice shifter but can be a bit too notchy for many people.

Check out TMOD Customs. They refurbish your existing lower box with upgraded bushings and bearings. You can also get an upgraded shifter ball bushing. Here is the direct link to the upgraded lower box: https://tmodcustoms.com/products/upgraded-factory-boxes

You just use your existing shifter.

It really tightens up everything.

If you have a base Corvette, another upgrade is to replace the upper shift lever with one from a Z06 or GS as those are a shorter shifter.
Another vote for TMOD CUSTOMS. I have TMOD CUSTOMS lower box rebuild and matching TMOD shifter with a Raceseng short extension, boot collar and Contour ****.


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I replaced my stock shifter with MGW, fine product and very happy. I will add that this is a very responsive and responsible vendor. I wish all vendors were as good as MGW!
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I think I wasn't clear enough in my wording, I was trying to figure out what mods someone could do to a stock shifter to make it "better". I had heard the C6 shifter wasnt the best stock, but mine feels really nice, very 'bolt action'-y. Im thinking it must be a Z06 box, and I think the only way id be able to confirm that is by taking it all apart to check, so im not too worried.

I do see that MGW is far and away the most recommended replacement, with Tick and TMod following.
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The best possible setup for a stock shifter is my upgraded box and shifter bushing, nothing else matters really. One other significant difference is upgrading the shifter linkage that connects the box to the gearbox but that requires dropping the gearbox / tube. I have boxes in stock so I can send you an upgraded box to swap if you don't wan to have the car down while you send your box in to be upgraded.


https://tmodcustoms.com/products/upgraded-factory-boxes






Upgraded factory boxes feel and function significantly better than a brand new stock box and will stay that way for the life of the car.
Upgraded factory boxes feel and function significantly better than a brand new stock box and will stay that way for the life of the car.




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Originally Posted by VetteVinnie
I'm surprised to see the word "notchy" regarding the MGW. That was far from my experience. Of course, I'm sure it depends on the configuration, but the shifter with their race **** was absolutely phenomenal and could easily move between gears with very little effort.

But…. Do you race? Do you row gears? That’s mostly where the difference lays.
There are ALOT of guys that swap from the MGW due to issues. These are usually the “drivers” that don’t like them.
MGW is deff the Hype brand. The owner is super nice, but it’s hyped up too much
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But…. Do you race? Do you row gears? That’s mostly where the difference lays.
There are ALOT of guys that swap from the MGW due to issues. These are usually the “drivers” that don’t like them.
MGW is deff the Hype brand. The owner is super nice, but it’s hyped up too much
No, I never raced or threw gears in that car.

My guess is none of them had the weighted race ****. It was butter smooth. The tension was perfect to center it quickly and get it into third with minimal effort, and to fourth was a quick flick of the fingers. I don't track anymore, so I probably will stick with the stock shifter in the Grand Sport. I had a B&M Ripper in my 1999 Trans Am that also saw quite a few AutoX and 1/4 mile runs. I liked the MGW a lot better. That said, I only have experience with their race ****. Anything other than that, YMMV,



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I didn’t need a whole documented dissertation with pics and time slips. Yes would have been a fine
Answer as well,

Diff strokes for diff folks, but ALOT of people sell off their MGW for a reason. You will always be able to find a used MGW. That says it all imho.
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I didn’t need a whole documented dissertation with pics and time slips. Yes would have been a fine
Answer as well,

Diff strokes for diff folks, but ALOT of people sell off their MGW for a reason. You will always be able to find a used MGW. That says it all imho.
Your consistent disbelief of others who have practical hands-on experience and empirical evidence always requires proof. And it's funny that the company you chose has a shift **** that looks a whole lot like MGW's race ****. You think that's a coincidence? Form follows function. Have a nice day.
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Your consistent disbelief of others who have practical hands-on experience and empirical evidence always requires proof. And it's funny that the company you chose has a shift **** that looks a whole lot like MGW's race ****. You think that's a coincidence? Form follows function. Have a nice day.

You are talking about a **** when we are talking about shifters my man.
You said you loved it and i asked if you
Raced though. Because most people that row gears don’t like them and sell them.
I dont need a picture of a car parked in front of cones and a random time slip from 15yrs ago to answer that.
a simple yes was all that was needed. Your opinion doesn’t change mine or the ones that have experienced what I have. But I am glad you
liked your MGW…… even if you aren’t putting one in your seventh Corvette

PS: this is nothing that imperical proof can be provided as it’s based on taste. I think you are confused when when I provide imperial data and you deny the data I provide by actual experience.
There is a difference. Let’s not go down this rabbit hole today.
You have your feelings and I have mine. I simply asked if you raced. Nothing more to it

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Love the MGW in my ‘11 GS. I drove a ‘13 427 Conv today and that is supposed to be short throw. If that was my car, I’d swap in an MGW.
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I changed out mine 07 base to the MGW. A bit too notchy. I even did the Anti-venom method by adding a washer. Still notchy. So, if there is a better shifter, I would go for that one. Not saying I don't like MGW shifters. A lot better than the OEM. Just my 2¢.
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You are talking about a **** when we are talking about shifters my man.
You said you loved it and i asked if you
Raced though. Because most people that row gears don’t like them and sell them.
I dont need a picture of a car parked in front of cones and a random time slip from 15yrs ago to answer that.
a simple yes was all that was needed. Your opinion doesn’t change mine or the ones that have experienced what I have. But I am glad you
liked your MGW…… even if you aren’t putting one in your seventh Corvette

PS: this is nothing that imperical proof can be provided as it’s based on taste. I think you are confused when when I provide imperial data and you deny the data I provide by actual experience.
There is a difference. Let’s not go down this rabbit hole today.
You have your feelings and I have mine. I simply asked if you raced. Nothing more to it
I've watched a lot of videos also with others demonstrating their driving, and part of the problem I see is how they handle the shifter. Most folks grab it with a fist and manhandle it, so to speak. That is definitely not the way to do it, especially with a weighted shift ****. That extra weight is there for a reason, and it allows it to move without much effort. Those who complain about the MGW going from second to third obviously are ham-fisting it because I never had that problem. All you need to do is just pop it out of second, and it will quickly center itself being a short-throw. Then you simply push it into third with the palm of your hand. No need to grab it. I outran many who even drove autos with how quick and efficient those shifts were (of course, that was combined with carbon clutch discs, which mechanically were fantastic and were like an on-off switch, but were noisy as hell).

The race **** has everything to do with it because of the added height and weight. I can't imagine any short throw with a standard ****. That's what the B&M was in the Trans Am.

14 years ago was when I had that car. The shifter you chose didn't exist back then.

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I changed out mine 07 base to the MGW. A bit too notchy. I even did the Anti-venom method by adding a washer. Still notchy. So, if there is a better shifter, I would go for that one. Not saying I don't like MGW shifters. A lot better than the OEM. Just my 2¢.
To be fair, there are no notches in the shifter itself. That all happens at the transmission. The shorter throw just amplifies it.
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To be fair, there are no notches in the shifter itself. That all happens at the transmission. The shorter throw just amplifies it.
Not entirely true. Its the mounting of the shifter and mounting of the trans and everything between that causes the shifting issues.

For your other part on the "not shifting right" I do not palm my shifters, nor do I use those stupid ball shifters. I use cylindrical type shifters that you are referring to. I alway use them from the side, not the top.

Again my experience is my experience. I had no shifting issues until I added the MGW, then I hated my car.
Remote mounted shifters are the devil and I stand by my statement %10000 ! Give me a good old top loader that its shift quality is only determined by the transmission and I am fine. Once you start adding shifter alignment, trans alignment, motor mounts, trans mounts, bushing, shift linkages, etc, etc, etc to the mix that is when problems typically arise for someone that shifts FAST
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Not entirely true. Its the mounting of the shifter and mounting of the trans and everything between that causes the shifting issues.

For your other part on the "not shifting right" I do not palm my shifters, nor do I use those stupid ball shifters. I use cylindrical type shifters that you are referring to. I alway use them from the side, not the top.

Again my experience is my experience. I had no shifting issues until I added the MGW, then I hated my car.
Remote mounted shifters are the devil and I stand by my statement %10000 ! Give me a good old top loader that its shift quality is only determined by the transmission and I am fine. Once you start adding shifter alignment, trans alignment, motor mounts, trans mounts, bushing, shift linkages, etc, etc, etc to the mix that is when problems typically arise for someone that shifts FAST
Here we go again. "Not entirely true"? FACT: There are no notches in the shifter.

My experience is my experience, and it obviously differs from yours. Stop discounting experiences of others when they don't match your own. It doesn't make something less true. Did your MGW have the race ****? Because I would wager money it didn't.
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