Crushinator

There's a pretty good write-up in Car and Driver about the new GT500 Shelby. What they said is that Ford was quoted that the price will be between $36,000 and $40,000 and horsepower will be between 450 and 500. That is a HELL of a buy! Personally, I don't care for 4 seats in a car or a base curb weight of 3850 lbs, but think of the potential of this car since it's already intercooled and supercharged.

Will this car steal C6 and Z06 sales from GM? I happen to think it will. Maybe not much from the Z06 line. We that are planning on buying one, want the meanest, baddest, best handling car for our money and even at $70K I think that's what we'll be getting. But I really think the Shelby is a car that even though it does look familiar to every other Mustang on the block will give a similar impression as the Mustang Cobra R of 2001. All for $15,000 less and it'll blow the doors off the more expensive Cobra R!

It mentions in the article that the pre-production model wore 255's in the rear and that every acceleration test Ford did with the car, the tires went up in smoke every time. So they made the wheels 1/2" wider and now the car wears 285's. These give the Shelby a 0 to 60 time of 4.0 and a quarter mile time of 12.5 at 116 MPH. That is a damn fast car for less than $40 grand!

As I said, I don't think those of us that are dead-set on buying a Z06 will be visiting our local Ford dealer next summer, but I do think that GM better give the base C6 a bump or sales could suffer. Discuss

6speedC6

I saw the GT500 at Sebring raceway in April and it is a beauty. I don't think it will steal anything from the new Z06.
They are two different type of car and they draw different type of customer. I own an 03 Cobra and have had 2 other cobras before it. Although I have had some problems with my C6 Ilove the car. Although my cobra is 515HP at the flywheel it performs and handles so much different then the C6. Any present corvette owner looking at a Z06 will not cross over to a GT500. Alot of mustang owner I know may opt for a GT500. Bottom line My opinion you may see Ford owner cross over to a Z06 but not Covette owner to a GT500

Matt69-ZO6

I tend to agree; just a different market. Big difference in the overall driving experience.

Mustang's are move often daily drivers; Z06 will be weekend warriors.

BUT, I might just considered the GT500 if GM doesn't give me something to consider...

bernrex

If a Shelby can be had for < 40K, it will be a big hit for Ford. And, IMO ... will take 15-20% of market share from Chevy. Not from the ZO6 ... but, from base vette sales.

phantasms

three eight five zero


that's all i have to say about the GT500

99GTvert

I think a lot of the "true" mustang guys like myself are actually a bit dissppointed with the shelby. When it was first debuted they said it would have the same all aluminum, 5.4L, TWIN SCREW supercharged engine from the ford GT. If this is what they delivered I would be buying it. BUT, what is going into production is an iron blocked, roots style supercharged 5.4L. Basically a stroked 03/04 cobra engine with better heads. A good engine but with a car that is basically sold on just the engine it doesn't cut it and that is why I will be looking at the C6 ZO6 with its basically race ready dry sump 427. Light weight and coolers for everything that creates heat.

Z06LUST

It will not take sales away from Corvettes....totally different car and market...and if you cannot afford a new C6 Z06 you can't afford the new Shelby.....priced at Ford for under $40,000 but not by the dealers...so far it is a 2 yr car at 7500 per year.....Although Shelby has nothing to do with the car other than licensing his name, it is going into the Shelby Registery etc.........The MAIN buyers are going to be guys who would never consider a Mustang but are buying one to get the Shelby name and relive a little of their youth--well maybe a few base C6 sales lost not not enough to worry about.....

What is with this constant comparison of Mustangs and Corvettes....are you all that insecure in worrying that your car is not the best one ever made in the history of the entire universe or terrified that the world will discover that you only have a 3 incher and own a Corvette to prove your a real man....

One is a 4 seat Pony car and the other a 2 seat Sports car.....THEY ARE DIFFERENT!!! I own both and wouldn't trade one for the other...

David
The Ford guy who owns a Corvette

04 Z06 silver blk/red
04 Mach 1

bernrex

One is a ponycar ... the other a racehorse! BTW ... even those little donkey/asses are hung like elephants.

etekberg

I don't know why you guys are saying no one will cross shop the two cars.

Me personally, if the Z06 comes out at too high a price I will look into purchasing a GT500. I think it's a damn good car for a resonable amount of money, which is something I don't think the Z06 will be at anything above $65k.

That said, I have not driven a new Mustang yet, maybe I will sing a different tune after I do.

Scissors

Except for a few individuals, no.

You have people who are easily amused by numbers, and then you have people who appreciate true all-around performance in a car that can actually turn. Two different markets.

roushraven

Okay, I just don't understand. For those who would consider a GT500 if the C6-Z06 doesn't fall within your expected price range, what exactly are you looking for in a performance car???
One is supercar performing race car disguised as a street car while the other is a supercharged nose heavy Mustang with poor weight distribution and a high center of gravity. Not the same class at all. One driver wants complete all around performance - Z06 delivers. The other driver wants an easily modded car to own all from impromptu street races - GT500.

The C6-Z is an incredible complete performance car package in every objective way (looks are subjective). This car will be placed among an elite group of performance supercars and will prove to be a value even if it stickers at $75,000.

In contrast, with the GT500 the best you can expect is a blazingly fast straight line accelerator. Indications are that this four seater will have 57/43% weight distribution, obvious high center of gravity, 3850 curb weight, 450 plus rwtq supported by 285 series OEM tires. No doubt it will be a great, fun car but cross-shop a C6-Z06!!!!!!?????? I just don't see it.

I currently own both current models of the Cobra and Z06 and the two couldn't be more different. I have driven the new stangs, and while the new platform is significantly improved over the outgoing generation it would take much more than what the GT500 is expected to offer to make it the all around sports car that even the base C6 base is.

-RR

Vette5.5

Ever do some racing with just you in the car, then try it again with three or four more passengers. That's the differance between a Vette and the GT500's 3850 lb curb weight. Not to mention the Vette's far superior chassis and suspension. I think the GT500 is a really cool car, but I wouldn't cross shop it with a Vette, let alone a new ZO-6. Now if I could just afford both.

BIG Dave

I don't care if it has 1,000 horses. I won't drive a Mustang. There's more to an automobile than it's bhp...

JJayzX

GT500 12.5 1/4 and the C6 does it in what 12.6, don't see how it would compare to Z06 in mid 11's. The real seem more like this possibly; 58k, 43k, 40k. Just from what I seen so correct me anywhere that I am wrong.

musclecar6

To me it's simple. Weight. The vette 3179(zo6 3130 with 12 inch rear wheels & huge brakes) vs 3850. Imho for a high performance street car 3200/3300 lbs max & a minimum 480 to 490 hp & torque & now you have something. The right now power with half to 2/3rds throttle is all you need most of the time. If you have too much weight you need an inordinate amount of power to move it. The mustang gt500 looks good but its way too heavy.

hlv

I would like to know if Ford will test their motor like GM did
to the corvette motor when they came up with the 505 hp.
Didn't Ford have a prob a few years ago about how much
hp they had and people come to find out it was not there ?

z06z06z06z06

i'ev said it before and i'll say it again, the base corvette needs more HORSEPOWER! iif i'm driving a corvette, i don't want to get my *** kicked by a mustang.

roushraven

There will always be a faster car.

PeterK

Yeah, and these are the people who buying the 911

99GTvert

Yeah the 99 cobras were overrated but ever since then they have been seriously underrating their cars. Most 03/04 cobras dyno 365-380 at the whells bone stock, and they are only rated at 390bhp. And the Ford GTs I have seen a couple dyno at 550-560 at the wheels. I would expect that they will underrate the GT500 by a lot too considering the old cobras were making about 430-445bhp with a 4.6L and not as good heads.