[Z06] 997GT3 vs 997TT vs C6Z06 vs M6
06-20-2006, 04:59 PM
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I've driven the Murci, Gallardo, 360CS, 430, 355, M3s, 996TT, 996GT3, vipers etc... and I can say without a doubt the Z06 is better than all of them perfomance wise. High speed cruising is eays in this car. I was very comfortable in mine at 180mph. Solid as a rock.
06-20-2006, 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by 355Spider
I've driven the Murci, Gallardo, 360CS, 430, 355, M3s, 996TT, 996GT3, vipers etc... and I can say without a doubt the Z06 is better than all of them perfomance wise. High speed cruising is eays in this car. I was very comfortable in mine at 180mph. Solid as a rock.
06-20-2006, 05:14 PM
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you would think, but ive heard that the murci is kinda doggish, considering what it should be... just like the gt500
Originally Posted by KILR-RYD
I thoguht the Murcielago was a tad quicker than the Z06..
06-20-2006, 05:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Verrückt
You hit the nail on the head. I think 4.24 gears would be an overkill, but shorter gears would be one of the first mods I would do to a Z06.
In my humble opinion, a sports car should reach top speed in top gear.
In my humble opinion, a sports car should reach top speed in top gear.
my friend with viper-redsrt member here did this on his SRT10 - changing ratio at back by 20% (Im not sure whats number but from 3.05 to 3.65 probably-it is +-20%) and he is slowlier on 400mon average 0.5sec and on that 1.25mile drag I did 183 and he 163mph =5th gear in red.Z have a lot of power 1-4 so I will let them as they are but I will shorter 5th and 6th gear...
Is there any speed limiter at 200MPH? Since I have problems to go faster than 193mph (301kmh) I also think than my gauges are not working well since for ex. my 3rd gear red rpm is 121mph on my screen....
06-20-2006, 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by KILR-RYD
I thoguht the Murcielago was a tad quicker than the Z06..
06-20-2006, 06:25 PM
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Originally Posted by torchvette10
No they are not:
C6: 0.28
C5: 0.29
C6: 0.28
C5: 0.29
and don't forget that relatively high 22.3 sq ft of frontal area......I still think the other cars mentioned do not have enough power to run with the Z06 at any speed. As far as cruising at high speeds for a long distance, that super tall 6th gives the Z06 the advantage here.
06-20-2006, 06:39 PM
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According to Porsche, the slowest around the Nurburgring among the Lamborghini Gallardo, Aston Martin DB9, Porsche 997 Turbo and BMW M6 was the M6. They didn't say by how much, just that it was the slowest of the group.
06-20-2006, 06:44 PM
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Originally Posted by 32valves
C6Z: .342
and don't forget that relatively high 22.3 sq ft of frontal area......I still think the other cars mentioned do not have enough power to run with the Z06 at any speed. As far as cruising at high speeds for a long distance, that super tall 6th gives the Z06 the advantage here.
and don't forget that relatively high 22.3 sq ft of frontal area......I still think the other cars mentioned do not have enough power to run with the Z06 at any speed. As far as cruising at high speeds for a long distance, that super tall 6th gives the Z06 the advantage here.
06-20-2006, 07:50 PM
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Originally Posted by RadekG
sorry but probably it is my friend with viper-redsrt member here did this on his SRT10 - changing ratio at back by 20% (Im not sure whats number but from 3.05 to 3.65 probably-it is +-20%) and he is slowlier on 400mon average 0.5sec and on that 1.25mile drag I did 183 and he 163mph =5th gear in red.
Z have a lot of power 1-4 so I will let them as they are but I will shorter 5th and 6th gear...
Is there any speed limiter at 200MPH? Since I have problems to go faster than 193mph (301kmh) I also think than my gauges are not working well since for ex. my 3rd gear red rpm is 121mph on my screen....
my friend with viper-redsrt member here did this on his SRT10 - changing ratio at back by 20% (Im not sure whats number but from 3.05 to 3.65 probably-it is +-20%) and he is slowlier on 400mon average 0.5sec and on that 1.25mile drag I did 183 and he 163mph =5th gear in red.Z have a lot of power 1-4 so I will let them as they are but I will shorter 5th and 6th gear...
Is there any speed limiter at 200MPH? Since I have problems to go faster than 193mph (301kmh) I also think than my gauges are not working well since for ex. my 3rd gear red rpm is 121mph on my screen....
Messing with the diff ratio is a lot cheaper and easier than open the transmisson to change gears ratio. Shorter gears may give worst 1/4 mile but the recovers in 4th, 5th and 6th will be a lot more fast. And this is the gears that you use on the street. I'm one of those that agree that the max speed should match with the max power of the engine in the longer gear.
06-20-2006, 08:51 PM
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Originally Posted by black97magic
Tiago,
I've driven on the Autobahn and understand what you're asking.
The Z06 has been designed for high speed stability. The design details are directly related to the C6R (the one that won LeMans). There were issues with the C5Z06 cruising at high speeds for long periods of time, but those issues are resolved with the C6Z06. You'll also get better fuel mileage with the Z06 vs all the other cars listed. We think our gas prices are high here, but Germany is much more expensive. If you cruise at about 140kph, you'll likely get around 30mpg (not sure the conversion of L/Km, but it's close to a BMW 325 with Steptronic).
I've driven on the Autobahn and understand what you're asking.
The Z06 has been designed for high speed stability. The design details are directly related to the C6R (the one that won LeMans). There were issues with the C5Z06 cruising at high speeds for long periods of time, but those issues are resolved with the C6Z06. You'll also get better fuel mileage with the Z06 vs all the other cars listed. We think our gas prices are high here, but Germany is much more expensive. If you cruise at about 140kph, you'll likely get around 30mpg (not sure the conversion of L/Km, but it's close to a BMW 325 with Steptronic).
06-20-2006, 08:53 PM
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Originally Posted by phantasms
Compared to other stock cars.
And the C5Z was ahead of it's time but this is even moreso.
There's a reason this car costs 20k more than the old Z.
I loved my old C5Z but when I drove the exotics and got back in my car the C5 felt terrible. A fast terribly built car.
This car feels just as good as any 6 figure car i've driven.
in the LPE twin turbo car would fit between the turbo and the M6 as fasr as what i'd want.
And the C5Z was ahead of it's time but this is even moreso.
There's a reason this car costs 20k more than the old Z.
I loved my old C5Z but when I drove the exotics and got back in my car the C5 felt terrible. A fast terribly built car.
This car feels just as good as any 6 figure car i've driven.
in the LPE twin turbo car would fit between the turbo and the M6 as fasr as what i'd want.
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06-20-2006, 08:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Verrückt
You hit the nail on the head. I think 4.24 gears would be an overkill, but shorter gears would be one of the first mods I would do to a Z06.
In my humble opinion, a sports car should reach top speed in top gear.
In my humble opinion, a sports car should reach top speed in top gear.
06-20-2006, 09:59 PM
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Originally Posted by phantasms
sorry i'm not here to read every thread. 
....that poor horse...
anyway. if any m6, turbo's or gt3's want to go from a 160 punch...please....let me know.
....that poor horse...
anyway. if any m6, turbo's or gt3's want to go from a 160 punch...please....let me know.
, where a M6 (governor removed) was on the Autobahn racing a Gixer 1000 at around 170, and started pulling away from it pretty quickly, tach and needo slammed, eventually past 210 I think. Extremely impressive.In the same video, it also beats a 996TT pretty handily from a dead stop...
But I have also never had the Z06 up to 160 yet, so I don't know what it is capable of, all I know is I love it...gave up my M6 allocation for it ( though I am going to trade in my M3 for one as soon as I can find a white one).
06-20-2006, 10:33 PM
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Fresh off the truck...one of two pre-sold customer cars awaiting delivery 
Since I can't see them, I'll ask. Is it the new Turbo?
06-20-2006, 10:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Verrückt
I have to sorta disagree. In the Motortrend 0-200 video, the car really hits a wall when it shifts into 5th gear. It's a trivial point, but I think more aerodynamic cars like the Porsches and BMW's would begin to pull at this speed.