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Old 10-22-2013, 06:26 PM
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Originally Posted by LFZ
^this...."the fix" is not a solution to the problem IMO..it is essentially a bandaid that is harder to take off for now.
Then what is the "fix"? What does it take to make the LS7 last as long as a LS3 without dropping a valve?

Anyone can condemn another's solution, but to do so, you should post a better solution.
Old 10-22-2013, 06:40 PM
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Poor OP Guy just wanted a little helping hand Sorry
Old 10-22-2013, 06:52 PM
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NO MORE "FIX" THREADS!!! NO MORE "FIX" THREADS!!!

Lets get back on track. OP any updates?
Old 10-22-2013, 07:06 PM
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Originally Posted by race105
Thx for all the input here guys... gave it a good start pulling the motor everything is just about ready to be taken out from under the car. Have to get two more sets of jack stands just to be sure everything is secure then i will unbolt the cradle, make sure everything is disconnected and raise the body up on this puppy... I just cant take the suspense anymore of not knowing what exploded... Then i can begin to weep in the corner before building the motor i really want LOL
Sorry you had to join the club with me and many others.

Good luck on your new motor.

Any pics of your teardown and of course valve guide measurements would be great.


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Old 10-22-2013, 07:09 PM
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Originally Posted by BoostedEBZ06
I'm confused on why there's isn't a class action suit already.
Right get a lawyer on it, you got two chances of success, slim and none.
Old 10-22-2013, 07:10 PM
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Originally Posted by ioutrun
once you get the new engine, it would be in your best interest to get yourself a set of "richard heads". Better off spening 2k on WCCH heads rather than a warranty plan.
I agree


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Old 10-22-2013, 07:14 PM
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See what you need - I am about 3 hours south of you.
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Sorry to hear of the engine failure, especially at such a low mileage. Best of luck with the replacement engine.
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Originally Posted by JoesC5
Then what is the "fix"? What does it take to make the LS7 last as long as a LS3 without dropping a valve?

Anyone can condemn another's solution, but to do so, you should post a better solution.
Not condemning...just stating facts. Bronze guides and SS valve is obviously not a fix.
Old 10-22-2013, 07:34 PM
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Originally Posted by JoesC5
Then what is the "fix"? What does it take to make the LS7 last as long as a LS3 without dropping a valve?
Wiggle test!

Originally Posted by JoesC5
Anyone can condemn another's solution, but to do so, you should post a better solution.
That doesn't make any sense at all.

Man goes to doctor, says his hand hurts.
Doctor says if they cut off his arm, his hand will no longer hurt.

You're saying that solution can't be condemned without offering a better solution?
Old 10-22-2013, 07:44 PM
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Originally Posted by zman62
Everyone of these "fix threads" get ridiculous. There will always be spectators (let it happen people) and players (make it happen people). The two sides never agree.
Old 10-22-2013, 08:29 PM
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Originally Posted by LFZ
Not condemning...just stating facts. Bronze guides and SS valve is obviously not a fix.
Then what is?

Because if you are saying that, well then you're saying that there is no answer to the LS7 valve train issue.

I don't believe that, in light of the success that "The Fix" has had, and continues to have.
Old 10-22-2013, 08:56 PM
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Originally Posted by '06 Quicksilver Z06
Then what is?

Because if you are saying that, well then you're saying that there is no answer to the LS7 valve train issue.

I don't believe that, in light of the success that "The Fix" has had, and continues to have.
Just because I am not convinced that bronze guides and SS valves is the answer doesn't mean I know where the holy grail exists. You cannot convince me a few others here that your "fix" is an actual solution and not a prolonged band aid.
Old 10-22-2013, 10:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Mark200X
Wiggle test!


That doesn't make any sense at all.

Man goes to doctor, says his hand hurts.
Doctor says if they cut off his arm, his hand will no longer hurt.


You're saying that solution can't be condemned without offering a better solution?
You'd better leave the analogies to me, because that one is lousy.

But I can understand, as I have a gift for making analogies, that not everyone has.

You're talking about removing a good part, "the arm", because the guy's "hand" is hurting.

If you are going to make an absurd analogy like that, well then why not offer up that the plan is to cut off the guy's leg because his hand is hurting?

Such an analogy is just as ridiculous.

"The Fix" involves the replacement of prone to failure parts, guides, exhaust valves, with superior and more durable parts, which have held up in the demands of their environment.
Old 10-22-2013, 10:19 PM
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Originally Posted by LFZ
Just because I am not convinced that bronze guides and SS valves is the answer doesn't mean I know where the holy grail exists. You cannot convince me a few others here that your "fix" is an actual solution and not a prolonged band aid.
I don't need to.

Actually, I love the "band aid" part. Nice touch BTW.

But I think that you are giving "band aids" a bum rap. A pair of eyeglasses is a "prolonged band aid" and not an "actual solution", but millions of people do just fine, indeed live out their entire lives wearing eyeglasses.

What do you think that diet, cessation of smoking, abstinence from alcohol, watching your cholesterol and regular exercise are?

When you really get down to it, they're nothing more than "band aids" because we're all aging and just waiting to die, and that day will certainly come.

Neither of the above is going to allow you to live a millennium.

Neither is an "actual solution", to preventing an eventual visit from the Grim Reaper, because you're going to die anyway. Just like any motor ever built by man is going to someday expire. Diet and exercise???? Neither is an "actual solution" to the "death problem", a problem which has plagued man since he got here, and is arguably his biggest problem. Diet and exercise, they're all just "band aids".

Look in the obituaries. The guy who was a fitness fanatic, is just as dead as the guy who never execrcised a day in his life, smoked like a chimney, and drank like a fish.

So since all of the above are "band aids", and it seems like from reading your post, that you have something against what you consider to be band aids, then why are you not spending the same time and energy encouraging people to stop exercising, eating right, as you are telling people that "The Fix" is just a "bandaid"?

So if you want to approach this from the standpoint of "You cannot convince me a few others here that your "fix" is an actual solution and not a prolonged band aid, that's fine.

But I'd just point to other "band aids", which we encounter in this life, and which increase our personal enjoyment of that which we have, allow us to maximize what we have and make the best out of a bad situation, i.e. the use of eyeglasses in those who are nearsighted, and which yes, ultimately improve our quality of life.

So if you want to call "The Fix" a "bandaid", then go right ahead.

If it is a "band aid", well then it is allowing many of our membership to enjoy their cars with considerably less worry, and that's what it's all about. And the results indicate that they are well justified in worrying less about this matter than what they had been.

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Old 10-22-2013, 10:25 PM
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Originally Posted by '06 Quicksilver Z06
[...] "The Fix" involves the replacement of prone to failure parts, guides, exhaust valves, with superior and more durable parts, which have held up in the demands of their environment.
You really should be posting in the vendor section
Old 10-22-2013, 10:45 PM
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Proverbs 16:18 It happened once. It will happen again.

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Old 10-23-2013, 12:44 AM
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And it continues....How many pages this time..LOL..???

Do the valve and guide change or go with a completely different head that has no relation with the factory head.
Old 10-23-2013, 12:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Mark200X
Actually there are but they get covered up, excused, or simply not spoken of. One member had a Rev exhaust valve go bad (didn't break), another had some excessive guide wear barely inside the service limit (wiggle test).
So even though they are covered up and not spoken of .........

You know of a set of Richards heads that have failed??


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Old 10-23-2013, 07:17 AM
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You really should be posting in the vendor section

No!! Not EasyMoney

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