[Z06] Best ported heads for power
#23
Pro
BEST LS7 Heads?
Qualifier: With a plastic Manifold (MSD or FAST) to fit a C5/6.
Mamo Motorsports LS7!
For the following primary reasons among others.
1. Providing 412 CFM From a 265 CC Intake Port @ .650"
(Exceeding/Matching other heads from 280-305 CC Ports).
2. Substantially better low and mid-lift #s, along with a better
E/I Ratio.
This allows the following:
1. 600+ RWHP from the smallest Cams in this section by far
Due to the Phenominal Air Speed & Resulting Cylinder Fill.
236/248 with great Drive Abilty & Manners, smallest I have
Seen so far.
I predict 234/244 114+2 will exceed 600 RWHP
with a MMS Top End and an optimized Drive-Line,
Perhaps smaller.
2. More tolerant of LARGER Duration Cams,
Again due to the Higher Air Velocity being more resistant to
Reversion in instances of Larger then optimal Cam Overlap.
7 Different Independant Tuners Across the Country Have Reported
Their Highest Performing C6 Z06 Platforms
ALL of them had MMS HCI Packages!
Case Closed End of Discussion LOL!
Qualifier: With a plastic Manifold (MSD or FAST) to fit a C5/6.
Mamo Motorsports LS7!
For the following primary reasons among others.
1. Providing 412 CFM From a 265 CC Intake Port @ .650"
(Exceeding/Matching other heads from 280-305 CC Ports).
2. Substantially better low and mid-lift #s, along with a better
E/I Ratio.
This allows the following:
1. 600+ RWHP from the smallest Cams in this section by far
Due to the Phenominal Air Speed & Resulting Cylinder Fill.
236/248 with great Drive Abilty & Manners, smallest I have
Seen so far.
I predict 234/244 114+2 will exceed 600 RWHP
with a MMS Top End and an optimized Drive-Line,
Perhaps smaller.
2. More tolerant of LARGER Duration Cams,
Again due to the Higher Air Velocity being more resistant to
Reversion in instances of Larger then optimal Cam Overlap.
7 Different Independant Tuners Across the Country Have Reported
Their Highest Performing C6 Z06 Platforms
ALL of them had MMS HCI Packages!
Case Closed End of Discussion LOL!
#24
Drifting
The AI heads are the only heads to repeatedly make 600+ with a BTR 4 or B3 cam time and time again. With the exception of Mamo, other vendors post up dyno graphs with atmospheric pressure anomalies and inflated flow numbers to try to get your business. AI cars are trapping 2-3 mph faster on motor for a reason.
Now if you want to go big, there are a set of Mamo 265 heads in the for sale section.
Now if you want to go big, there are a set of Mamo 265 heads in the for sale section.
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#25
Melting Slicks
Being nice kid and not condescending, you can only reinvent the wheel so many times. To the other guy. Try getting Darin Morgan to port a set of LS7 heads. Or try to just get a hold of him period. Not gonna happen. He doesn't need that. What (companies/people) that have been mentioned here is the best of the best and what the fastest guys use 99% of the time.
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#26
Melting Slicks
You understand you are going overboard with 99% of the guys on this forum right?
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the best are always busy..youll have to stand in line, wait and pay
x2 on inlated crap out there.....they know car guys are cheap and buy via #s/price. Few honest guys out there that show less # and for some reason thier cars are fast down the 1/4..hmmmm
OP never said what your budget was
x2 on inlated crap out there.....they know car guys are cheap and buy via #s/price. Few honest guys out there that show less # and for some reason thier cars are fast down the 1/4..hmmmm
OP never said what your budget was
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the best are always busy..youll have to stand in line, wait and pay
x2 on inlated crap out there.....they know car guys are cheap and buy via #s/price. Few honest guys out there that show less # and for some reason thier cars are fast down the 1/4..hmmmm
OP never said what your budget was
x2 on inlated crap out there.....they know car guys are cheap and buy via #s/price. Few honest guys out there that show less # and for some reason thier cars are fast down the 1/4..hmmmm
OP never said what your budget was
I just got matt to help me out at gptuning trying to sell off my heads for now
#29
OP, you're wasting your time thinking about H/C/I, selling for a ZR1, selling for a C7Z, new engine, turbos, nitrous. What you want to do is just move straight to a jet turbine. GE and Lockheed are well regarded, but they are not board sponsors here so I don't know if it's okay to link them. GM actually makes a jet turbine as well, so that may end up being the easiest swap. Best of luck to you, I think if you plan carefully, you can meet your thrust goals.
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#30
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mk9M...ature=youtu.be
No we don't inflate our numbers or change the dyno. Feel free to read the description of the video. If you don't have time, this is how it reads:
Frankenstein Ported MSD Atomic LS7 Manifold
Kooks 2"x3" LT headers with off road connection pipes
Frankenstein Ported Stage 1 GM LS7 heads
Frankenstein LS7 N/A Cam
Pump gas 93
Car made 595 on our mainline dyno with 1 7/8" headers
Car made 613 on SNL Performance dyno with 1 7/8" headers
Car made 608whp (current video) with 2" x 3" Kooks headers
Currently awaiting SNL Performance dyno time to see the new numbers with 2" headers
If you have any questions at all about any of our products or programs, feel free to fire away!
-Russ
No we don't inflate our numbers or change the dyno. Feel free to read the description of the video. If you don't have time, this is how it reads:
Frankenstein Ported MSD Atomic LS7 Manifold
Kooks 2"x3" LT headers with off road connection pipes
Frankenstein Ported Stage 1 GM LS7 heads
Frankenstein LS7 N/A Cam
Pump gas 93
Car made 595 on our mainline dyno with 1 7/8" headers
Car made 613 on SNL Performance dyno with 1 7/8" headers
Car made 608whp (current video) with 2" x 3" Kooks headers
Currently awaiting SNL Performance dyno time to see the new numbers with 2" headers
If you have any questions at all about any of our products or programs, feel free to fire away!
-Russ
#31
Burning Brakes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mk9M...ature=youtu.be
No we don't inflate our numbers or change the dyno. Feel free to read the description of the video. If you don't have time, this is how it reads:
Frankenstein Ported MSD Atomic LS7 Manifold
Kooks 2"x3" LT headers with off road connection pipes
Frankenstein Ported Stage 1 GM LS7 heads
Frankenstein LS7 N/A Cam
Pump gas 93
Car made 595 on our mainline dyno with 1 7/8" headers
Car made 613 on SNL Performance dyno with 1 7/8" headers
Car made 608whp (current video) with 2" x 3" Kooks headers
Currently awaiting SNL Performance dyno time to see the new numbers with 2" headers
If you have any questions at all about any of our products or programs, feel free to fire away!
-Russ
No we don't inflate our numbers or change the dyno. Feel free to read the description of the video. If you don't have time, this is how it reads:
Frankenstein Ported MSD Atomic LS7 Manifold
Kooks 2"x3" LT headers with off road connection pipes
Frankenstein Ported Stage 1 GM LS7 heads
Frankenstein LS7 N/A Cam
Pump gas 93
Car made 595 on our mainline dyno with 1 7/8" headers
Car made 613 on SNL Performance dyno with 1 7/8" headers
Car made 608whp (current video) with 2" x 3" Kooks headers
Currently awaiting SNL Performance dyno time to see the new numbers with 2" headers
If you have any questions at all about any of our products or programs, feel free to fire away!
-Russ
13HP gain going from 1 7/8 to 2'' headers! It sounds like others will be posting their gains in the near future as well and hopefully put this issue to rest.
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#32
Drifting
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mk9M...ature=youtu.be
No we don't inflate our numbers or change the dyno. Feel free to read the description of the video. If you don't have time, this is how it reads:
Frankenstein Ported MSD Atomic LS7 Manifold
Kooks 2"x3" LT headers with off road connection pipes
Frankenstein Ported Stage 1 GM LS7 heads
Frankenstein LS7 N/A Cam
Pump gas 93
Car made 595 on our mainline dyno with 1 7/8" headers
Car made 613 on SNL Performance dyno with 1 7/8" headers
Car made 608whp (current video) with 2" x 3" Kooks headers
Currently awaiting SNL Performance dyno time to see the new numbers with 2" headers
If you have any questions at all about any of our products or programs, feel free to fire away!
-Russ
No we don't inflate our numbers or change the dyno. Feel free to read the description of the video. If you don't have time, this is how it reads:
Frankenstein Ported MSD Atomic LS7 Manifold
Kooks 2"x3" LT headers with off road connection pipes
Frankenstein Ported Stage 1 GM LS7 heads
Frankenstein LS7 N/A Cam
Pump gas 93
Car made 595 on our mainline dyno with 1 7/8" headers
Car made 613 on SNL Performance dyno with 1 7/8" headers
Car made 608whp (current video) with 2" x 3" Kooks headers
Currently awaiting SNL Performance dyno time to see the new numbers with 2" headers
If you have any questions at all about any of our products or programs, feel free to fire away!
-Russ
I've already posted up actual flow numbers from heads you over that were 30cfm over inflated from .300 lift on up. Looks like you've managed to prove me right once again.
Another local swapped from FRH heads to Blacklabels and picked up .15 in the 1/8th with no other changes.
#33
All these claims yet NOT ONE CAR on CF that has run those heads has performed, NOT ONE. Nor on Yellow Bullet, nor on LS1Tech. I'll be at WGF in Dallas in Nov, bring a 600whp FRH head car.
Yes, thats a call out
Yes, thats a call out
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#35
You are 18-22 peak horsepower away from what AI heads have done with the same setup - not to mention their improved midrange.
I've already posted up actual flow numbers from heads you over that were 30cfm over inflated from .300 lift on up. Looks like you've managed to prove me right once again.
Another local swapped from FRH heads to Blacklabels and picked up .15 in the 1/8th with no other changes.
I've already posted up actual flow numbers from heads you over that were 30cfm over inflated from .300 lift on up. Looks like you've managed to prove me right once again.
Another local swapped from FRH heads to Blacklabels and picked up .15 in the 1/8th with no other changes.
The black Z06 I've posted all the numbers on isn't a shop car, it's a walk in customers. Our ported GM LS7 heads, our cam, Atomic MSD intake ported by us, 2" x 3" Kooks LT headers (as of yesterday). We aren't hiding anything, merely showing our results. You two can continue to hate on us until your fingertips are numb lol.
-Russ
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#36
Drifting
They were running a set of your Brodix heads so they went from a set of $4800 heads to a set of $3800 heads and picked up ET and MPH.
Apparently your Superflow 600 is a factory freak because it outruns all the others. The rest of the car world knows that a flowbench isn't the end all tool, however it's hard to refute the fact that the power, ET, and MPH unequivocally confirm the obvious liberal salesmanship of the products.
Feel free to check the forum for numerous examples of competitors products. Lest ye forget I've shown that to you several times.
I'm not "hating" on anyone. I'm simply providing independently verified quantitative and qualitative data back to the forum.
How many cars on the fast list are running your heads? I'll wait. 👨🏻*💻
Apparently your Superflow 600 is a factory freak because it outruns all the others. The rest of the car world knows that a flowbench isn't the end all tool, however it's hard to refute the fact that the power, ET, and MPH unequivocally confirm the obvious liberal salesmanship of the products.
Feel free to check the forum for numerous examples of competitors products. Lest ye forget I've shown that to you several times.
I'm not "hating" on anyone. I'm simply providing independently verified quantitative and qualitative data back to the forum.
How many cars on the fast list are running your heads? I'll wait. 👨🏻*💻
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OP, you're wasting your time thinking about H/C/I, selling for a ZR1, selling for a C7Z, new engine, turbos, nitrous. What you want to do is just move straight to a jet turbine. GE and Lockheed are well regarded, but they are not board sponsors here so I don't know if it's okay to link them. GM actually makes a jet turbine as well, so that may end up being the easiest swap. Best of luck to you, I think if you plan carefully, you can meet your thrust goals.
I'm still doing the HCI and I'm talking about buying those cars In 3-4 years from now Im going to experience the C6Z. I might even keep it I'll prob have enough to get one by then
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Who flycuts LS7s pistons?
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