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Old 07-09-2019, 06:50 PM
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I am excited to see how GM has advanced the performance of the car in a whole. The c6 is raw and powerful, the c7 is has downforce and manages the power a little better. What will the c8 bring to the table?

HP isn't everything dodge learned that by building a heavy a car with enormous power, even the C7zr has more power then it can handle. I hate to say it but they are no match for a car that that has great balance between power/traction/weight this I have learned from recent track days.

Those who don't track against these other cars or drive there cars hard have no idea and only car about styling or bragging rights. looky, looky what im driving
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“”Those who don't track against these other cars or drive there cars hard have no idea and only car about styling or bragging rights. looky, looky what im driving””

How true. Whenever I see a super car, ( Lamborghini, Ferrari, Porsche Turbo, etc ). .. I wonder how many ever see the track. Most are paying the $200,000 plus price of entry so that they “look” good, important, powerful.
The C6 Z06 and ZR1 are sledgehammers, that also do a great job of sending home the finish nails.

As for a previous comment that people people couldn’t give “two *****” about the C6 performance coupes ... I’ll beg to differ. I get compliments almost daily, from all ages.
Today at the gas pump a dude in a BMW M6 asked what year, what engine bla bla bla. Then, the inevitable question about power. After answering 650 HP, the convo came to an end.
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Originally Posted by freddyvette View Post
The truth hurts, and when people are butthurt, they get defensive. thanks for proving my point.

Trust me no one gives two sharts about your 8 year old car.

You just made a post disparaging a car which has it's own subforum in the hopes that the people browsing this one will give your fragile ego some validation. The insecurity is palpable.

Those people who can't appreciate changes in styles and technological advancements, and talk down to others to feel better about the money they spent... truly the worst type of car enthusiast.

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I Do !!!! my dream car and no newer one will change that !!!!!!!!!!!!

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Old 07-09-2019, 07:57 PM
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corvettes should have round tail lights !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 07-09-2019, 07:57 PM
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Originally Posted by freddyvette View Post
Jealousy and denial at it's finest, ladies and gentlemen.
Freddy, the C6 is a drivers car. It’s what most of us in the C1-C6 crowd admire about the corvette. The tail lights, the raw power. It feels like a corvette, it’s unmistakable with or without badges, THIS is a corvette... the L88 in ‘67, an overpowered 427 engine on a 3300 pound car... the LS7 in our C6 Z06’s, an overpowered 427 engine on a 3300 pound car. The resemblance is inside and out through history...

The changes in the C7 were too much, too soon, for many of us. This doesn’t mean we’re jealous, or in denial. I pulled up behind a camo C8 and ignored it entirely because I thought it was a camaro with a wrap.... when it took a turn at the light and I realized it was a C8, at first I immediately wanted to turn around... then I realized I just mistook what should have been the most exciting car on the road to me, for a camaro... so I let it go.

Don’t get me wrong, if I had the extra cash laying around, I would buy a C8 Z06... but that’s purely because I love corvettes, and the same reason I would buy a c7 Z06, knowing full well it has cooling problems. I want one of every generation.

But like many others, I too also feel like the last true corvette was the C6.
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Old 07-09-2019, 08:46 PM
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I hope the wide body C8 looks like this C8R. IMSA should be good next year !
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Old 07-09-2019, 09:34 PM
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Originally Posted by VelocityC6z View Post
Freddy, the C6 is a drivers car. It’s what most of us in the C1-C6 crowd admire about the corvette. The tail lights, the raw power. It feels like a corvette, it’s unmistakable with or without badges, THIS is a corvette... the L88 in ‘67, an overpowered 427 engine on a 3300 pound car... the LS7 in our C6 Z06’s, an overpowered 427 engine on a 3300 pound car. The resemblance is inside and out through history...

The changes in the C7 were too much, too soon, for many of us. This doesn’t mean we’re jealous, or in denial. I pulled up behind a camo C8 and ignored it entirely because I thought it was a camaro with a wrap.... when it took a turn at the light and I realized it was a C8, at first I immediately wanted to turn around... then I realized I just mistook what should have been the most exciting car on the road to me, for a camaro... so I let it go.

Don’t get me wrong, if I had the extra cash laying around, I would buy a C8 Z06... but that’s purely because I love corvettes, and the same reason I would buy a c7 Z06, knowing full well it has cooling problems. I want one of every generation.

But like many others, I too also feel like the last true corvette was the C6.
I think you misunderstood me. You're completely right, people are entitled to their opinion and some people like the classic style versus new designs. That's all fine with me.

However,this post is absolutely a childish cry for attention.
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Old 07-09-2019, 10:29 PM
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Who else could really care less about this car?
Mid engine, drastic design change, smaller displacement.. Perhaps I have become a little jaded with my recent ZR1 purchase. But I really don't see the big "to do" about this car.

If I am being honest, the C7 platform has grown on me. (Z06/ZR1/GS) not enough to buy one though.

The lines of both the C5Z/6Z's are timeless. GM knocked a home run with the wide body C6Z's. I am not convinced the C8's will do the same.

Is it just me?

C7 does nothing for me, slow AF in every iteration and gets drug by literally everything else on the road.
My only problem with the C5/6 is the **** interior. The C7 finally addressed this but still comes up short compared to a gen 5 viper.
Be interesting to see the C8 interior and if they put the car on slimfast.

3700lb C7? GTFOH
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Old 07-09-2019, 10:35 PM
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Originally Posted by bptuner View Post
I am excited to see how GM has advanced the performance of the car in a whole. The c6 is raw and powerful, the c7 is has downforce and manages the power a little better. What will the c8 bring to the table?

HP isn't everything dodge learned that by building a heavy a car with enormous power, even the C7zr has more power then it can handle. I hate to say it but they are no match for a car that that has great balance between power/traction/weight this I have learned from recent track days.

Those who don't track against these other cars or drive there cars hard have no idea and only car about styling or bragging rights. looky, looky what im driving

Well you have a valid point, the very people you talk about represent a very small minority of the people who buy these cars and all they really care about is to be able to "talk".

As as for Dodge, I disagree. The lesson the day of learn is a more power you put in a car the more of the cars that you will sell. And be realistic for what 99% of these cars are used for Dodge is doing very well with these cars. Corvette guys like to talk about "take the car down a twisty road" but how many of them actually do it or could do it?
The reality of it is the Charger and the Challenger are very capable and no less capable than the Corvette for the way the majority of Corvettes are used.
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Old 07-09-2019, 10:36 PM
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Originally Posted by KurtsZ06 View Post
“”Those who don't track against these other cars or drive there cars hard have no idea and only car about styling or bragging rights. looky, looky what im driving””

How true. Whenever I see a super car, ( Lamborghini, Ferrari, Porsche Turbo, etc ). .. I wonder how many ever see the track. Most are paying the $200,000 plus price of entry so that they “look” good, important, powerful.
The C6 Z06 and ZR1 are sledgehammers, that also do a great job of sending home the finish nails.


As for a previous comment that people people couldn’t give “two *****” about the C6 performance coupes ... I’ll beg to differ. I get compliments almost daily, from all ages.
Today at the gas pump a dude in a BMW M6 asked what year, what engine bla bla bla. Then, the inevitable question about power. After answering 650 HP, the convo came to an end.
Mustang guys say the same thing about Corvette guys.
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Old 07-09-2019, 10:51 PM
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That is your Opinion, interpretation A**hole.... and although entitled nobody else in this thread who's commented sees it that way. Its only you...
Again, who is the one seeking attention...? Well, now you have it yet again... Keep on...


By all means... entertain us Freddy....


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I think you misunderstood me. You're completely right, people are entitled to their opinion and some people like the classic style versus new designs. That's all fine with me.

However,this post is absolutely a childish cry for attention.
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The C8 still does nothing for me...
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No, better yet... Go sit in the corner until I TELL you that you can come out.
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The C8 wide body will probably change your mind when it arrives in a few years. Add turbos, AWD and a couple of electric motors up front and the ZR1 version is going to be ridiculous. Not sure I'll be able to afford it when it first comes out but I'll have one eventually.

The world will see a factory 1,000 HP car in the Corvette.... ZR1. 800 HP from the engine and two 100 HP electric motors powering the front wheels.

Love my C6ZR1 but we will see the day where 638 HP will be referred to "only 638". Hard to believe.

Need to see the C8 in person and then have time to digest the platform. Trying to keep an open mind and hope love at first site will happen just like it did on the C6ZR1.
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I'm thinking about picking up a C8 in the near future if I like it when I see one close up. Was thinking to trade my ZR1 on a huracan about 6 months ago but decided to wait and see what the C8 has to offer. If I do decide to pick up a new vette the ZR1 stays also, shes nightrace blue metallic, 1 of 54
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Originally Posted by CBMZR1 View Post
Who else could really care less about this car?
Mid engine, drastic design change, smaller displacement.. Perhaps I have become a little jaded with my recent ZR1 purchase. But I really don't see the big "to do" about this car.

If I am being honest, the C7 platform has grown on me. (Z06/ZR1/GS) not enough to buy one though.

The lines of both the C5Z/6Z's are timeless. GM knocked a home run with the wide body C6Z's. I am not convinced the C8's will do the same.

Is it just me?
Agree. I never really cared much for the C7 (too angular, not sleek, digital gauge cluster) but it still looks like a Corvette and has the tried and true vette layout; front engine, rear, transmission.

The C8 will no doubt be a great performer but it no longer looks like a Corvette; really feels like it has lost its soul. And it looks like most any other mid-engine performance car.
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Old 07-10-2019, 07:43 AM
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Originally Posted by ~STOLEN~ View Post
THIS^^^

i love my c6z, but i spent enough money making the interior nice enough to enjoy, that i could have built a bottom end for the damn thing. Now, im too far in it to ever get rid of it.

I've had this discussion 1000x over with friends in the car scene who seek to disparage the C6 over its interior. The car was released in 05 which means designed early to mid 2000's. Look around at 'luxury sports cars' of the same time as that's what people love to compare to. Interiors were far more reserved than they've become and the Vette was surely no exception. I had a 3LZ car and (sans GM's choice of ***** glue for the dash) never once got in it and felt that it was lacking, yet still had to field arguments of "But it doesn't have suede headliner!"

To OP's point, I'm excited to see the car but more excited to see what it does to C6 prices so I can get back in one

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Wow... what a beautiful home and ZR1.... I'd love to see more pics of it...( the car)

The Huracan's are sex.... Although I have pounded em in Mexico with my H/C C6Z... Cannot go wrong w either...


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I'm thinking about picking up a C8 in the near future if I like it when I see one close up. Was thinking to trade my ZR1 on a huracan about 6 months ago but decided to wait and see what the C8 has to offer. If I do decide to pick up a new vette the ZR1 stays also, shes nightrace blue metallic, 1 of 54
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I concur... that was kinda my point.


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Agree. I never really cared much for the C7 (too angular, not sleek, digital gauge cluster) but it still looks like a Corvette and has the tried and true vette layout; front engine, rear, transmission.

The C8 will no doubt be a great performer but it no longer looks like a Corvette; really feels like it has lost its soul. And it looks like most any other mid-engine performance car.
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Matt -

I like Front engine cars, so my opinion is a little biased in that regard. To your point, the base C8 Stingray does not do much for me. I think the wide body car will look pretty neat. That being said, it will be a lot more expensive than people are posting in the C8 section of this website. I am waiting for someone to show me how this new Z06 version will be less than $150K base MSRP - Given a dual clutch, twin turbo set-up. Maybe I am wrong, who knows. The other thing people are not mentioning is on a rear engine car, is the maintenance costs - Yes, the car will be under warranty, but do you really want your engine being dropped out of the car all of the time? Last time I checked, that is what had to be done on all of my friends mid engine cars. Enjoy your ZR1 - It looks awesome!

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