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Old Apr 30, 2008 | 09:51 AM
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As some of you may know, I'm in the market for a Twin Turbo setup. I have a 2008 C6 A6 and would like to run 7psi daily. I was wondering if I would need meth to run 9psi on occasional highway runs.

Would I need to tune it differently? would I HAVE to get software and plug in my laptop?


I dont think the tranny will take too much of that but Id like to hear what you all think since I am a total no0b in the world of forced induction.

Also, if any of you have stealth installs that dont use up the windshield washer reservoir id love to see them!

thanks!
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Originally Posted by xcessivex
As some of you may know, I'm in the market for a Twin Turbo setup. I have a 2008 C6 A6 and would like to run 7psi daily. I was wondering if I would need meth to run 9psi on occasional highway runs.

Would I need to tune it differently? would I HAVE to get software and plug in my laptop?


I dont think the tranny will take too much of that but Id like to hear what you all think since I am a total no0b in the world of forced induction.

Also, if any of you have stealth installs that dont use up the windshield washer reservoir id love to see them!

thanks!
You can use a boost controller to change the boost and you don't have to use meth. Meth will add additional cooling to the charge and it will increase the overall octane of the charge. That will allow you to increase the timing and therefore get more tq and hp. In my case, my car was originally tuned @ 9.5 psi w/o meth and could only take 6* advance without KR. The #s were 570 rwtq and 560 rwhp. Adding meth allowed the timing to be set at 13* advance and the #s were 654 rwtq and 630 rwhp @ 10 psi. I choose to run @ 8 psi w/meth (600/600) as I never track the car.

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Old Apr 30, 2008 | 01:56 PM
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I would recommend letting a professional tune the car. The software is pretty complex, and without help you would probably get a lot wrong.
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Old Apr 30, 2008 | 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by o0 zeno 0o
I would recommend letting a professional tune the car. The software is pretty complex, and without help you would probably get a lot wrong.
yea im not touching the tune, I might just buy the program, keep it on my laptop and save 2 tuned maps (if thats possible).

Just wondering if you think thats a wise move for the ocassional freeway pull?
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Old Apr 30, 2008 | 03:43 PM
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I don't recall the company name, but I'm sure with a little searching you could find it... But they offer a complete meth injection kit that is VERY well put together (from what I've read).

Has a pump that sits atop the tank in the trunk and everything....
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Old Apr 30, 2008 | 04:09 PM
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Originally Posted by xcessivex
As some of you may know, I'm in the market for a Twin Turbo setup. I have a 2008 C6 A6 and would like to run 7psi daily. I was wondering if I would need meth to run 9psi on occasional highway runs.

Would I need to tune it differently? would I HAVE to get software and plug in my laptop?


I dont think the tranny will take too much of that but Id like to hear what you all think since I am a total no0b in the world of forced induction.

Also, if any of you have stealth installs that dont use up the windshield washer reservoir id love to see them!

thanks!
I would run an ALKY system with any F.I. app period... 5psi,7psi,9psi+... It's too easy to make the engine safe with it, and even easier to make gobs of power (if you want to) because of it...
Call Julio at www.alkycontrol.com
He is the man when it comes to alky knowledge and he's VERY willing to help...
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Old Apr 30, 2008 | 04:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr.Big
I would run an ALKY system with any F.I. app period... 5psi,7psi,9psi+... It's too easy to make the engine safe with it, and even easier to make gobs of power (if you want to) because of it...
Call Julio at www.alkycontrol.com
He is the man when it comes to alky knowledge and he's VERY willing to help...
One of the many things I did when I first came to the forum and caught the mod bug. I called just about every active forum supporter that had anything to do with any mod I was considering. It won't turn you into the likes of MR BIG or Spin Monster, but you will be able to go forward with your mods and be more confident and knowledgeable about it.

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Old Apr 30, 2008 | 08:39 PM
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I don't recall the company name, but I'm sure with a little searching you could find it... But they offer a complete meth injection kit that is VERY well put together (from what I've read).

Has a pump that sits atop the tank in the trunk and everything....
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show....php?t=1806933
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Old Apr 30, 2008 | 09:03 PM
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Can anyone tell me the difference between the alkycontrol.com kit and the alcoholinjectionsystems.com kit?



I'm too new to this to make heads or tails of it. I just want the safest kit.

thanks!
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Can anyone tell me the difference between the alkycontrol.com kit and the alcoholinjectionsystems.com kit?



I'm too new to this to make heads or tails of it. I just want the safest kit.

thanks!
I've got a Snow Performance kit it works great! {Lifetime warranty}
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Old Apr 30, 2008 | 10:58 PM
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Originally Posted by xcessivex
Can anyone tell me the difference between the alkycontrol.com kit and the alcoholinjectionsystems.com kit?



I'm too new to this to make heads or tails of it. I just want the safest kit.

thanks!
i just got my AIS kit and it looks really nice.i will let you know how it performs in about a week on my APS kit and about 12 pounds of boost with straight meth .but the kit is very nice and i upgraded to the steel braided line for the pure meth.you cant go wrong with either,but i didnt want to take the fender back off since i just did the z06 widebody conversion and had hell lining the front fender up perfectly.so i just got the trunk mount kit.good luck
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Old May 1, 2008 | 01:03 AM
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Im running the Alky Control kit on mine with VP Racing M5 methanol. No issues...
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Im running the Alky Control kit on mine with VP Racing M5 methanol. No issues...
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Old May 1, 2008 | 09:49 AM
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ok but does anyone know which one of these guys use better parts and fail-safes?
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Old May 1, 2008 | 06:18 PM
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ok but does anyone know which one of these guys use better parts and fail-safes?
Your best failsafe is your ECU. Your ECU is already monitoring engine performance and safety. With proper dyno tuning you can continue to utilize your OEM ECU to to act as your failsafe.

If you would like to find out more information about our system feel free to contact us directly at 1.801.447.2559.

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Old May 1, 2008 | 09:47 PM
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Originally Posted by AIS
Your best failsafe is your ECU. Your ECU is already monitoring engine performance and safety. With proper dyno tuning you can continue to utilize your OEM ECU to to act as your failsafe.

If you would like to find out more information about our system feel free to contact us directly at 1.801.447.2559.

Rodney
The ECU is fine and dandy, but i want a midget to pop out of my glovebox, tazer me, then tell me he turned down the boost when/if something goes wrong...

... well it doesnt HHHAAAVVE to be a midget... but u know..
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Originally Posted by xcessivex
The ECU is fine and dandy, but i want a midget to pop out of my glovebox, tazer me, then tell me he turned down the boost when/if something goes wrong...

... well it doesnt HHHAAAVVE to be a midget... but u know..
Well,
1st get a very small person with a tazer, blanket, and pillow...(we want him to be comfortable)
then get Defi gages, like I have, with data logging, and high/low alert capability (fuel pressure,Boost,AFR)...
ALKY control all the wayyyyyyyy... Call Julio........
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Old May 2, 2008 | 01:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Mr.Big
Well,
1st get a very small person with a tazer, blanket, and pillow...(we want him to be comfortable)
then get Defi gages, like I have, with data logging, and high/low alert capability (fuel pressure,Boost,AFR)...
ALKY control all the wayyyyyyyy... Call Julio........
wow those look pretty cool, and not as expensive as tne autometer nexus... any idea where I can get a deal on them? Do you have them on the steering wheel like in the picture or on the a pillar? any pics of them mounted?

and most importantly can you link me to the controller that you use and can that alert somehow cut the boost with a boost controller? or w/e sorry im a no0b at this :o

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(Defi gauges) no AFR in these pics... (old pic)
got mine from www.edoperformance.com






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Old May 2, 2008 | 05:20 PM
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those are pretty nice thanks for the pic post!

I'm trying to get a whole lot of info in a very short time and am still confused as to how meth works.

I am going to be twin turboing my c6 and would like to run a boost controller so I can switch from low boost to high boost with Meth... my question is if my car is tuned for low boost won't I run into a problem when I boost high? Will I lean out? What about the timing?

Would I have to run HP tuners with 2 different tunes?
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