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Old Nov 24, 2008 | 07:14 AM
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Wilson Manifolds makes a nitrous system
http://www.wilsonmanifolds.com/shop/...ct_detail&p=30
How does this compare to NX, NOS etc. Is this a high, mid,or low end system, Has anyone used it on a corvette?
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Originally Posted by wanalooz
Wilson Manifolds makes a nitrous system
http://www.wilsonmanifolds.com/shop/...ct_detail&p=30
How does this compare to NX, NOS etc. Is this a high, mid,or low end system, Has anyone used it on a corvette?

It is top notch as with the rest of their products.
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Very high end stuff.
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The Pro-Flow systems are designed for the hardcore nitrous user in mind. They are a very nice sytem, but are very pricey.
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Thanks for the quick replies! Would their solenoids be on par with NX?
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Originally Posted by wanalooz
Thanks for the quick replies! Would their solenoids be on par with NX?
NX, like most nitrous companies has a few lines of solenoids, some better than others. What you want to look for is couple things. The orifice size, that indicates how large of hit you can run through it with out restrictions. For the most part, the smaller solenoids have a smaller orifice, which also indicates low amp draw, or a weaker solenoid. The amp draw is another area that indicates a solenoids grunt, look for the highest amp rating and that will be the most powerful solenoid. Check for adequate wire gauge, the bigger gauge the better the sloenoid build. Does one solenoid have the bottom outlet, or rather is it a 3-port style solenoid. This is important because it indicates that we can purge the nitrous all the way through the solenoid, rather than just up to the solenoid like a 2-port solenoid. The 3-port is always associated with quality solenoids. Then there is material that the solenoid is made from, look for SS, IMO. Some are made of aluminum, which I run these, but would choose SS in the future. Aluminum will/can start oxidizing, where as a SS sloenoid will not. We can also polish the SS up to look very good. Actually, I personally run the NX Stage 6 solenoids (aluminum) on my 2nd and 3rd stage, and the mondo HSW 3-port SS solenoids on my 1st stage DP Dry. As you can see, all solenoids are not created equal. IMO, either NX, Pro-Flow or HSW would have a quality solenoid, just stay away from the small ones each carries and you'll do fine.

Here's another option for you, and you will not find a better solenoid at such a value price. Let me know if I can help in any way. Even though these solenoids are not listed on my site yet, we do carry them, as well as other brands.

Robert

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Robert, thanks for the detailed response, if money wasn't an issue are some nitrous kits Superior to others or do the best bargain systems have very similar performance and reliability to very expensive ones?
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Originally Posted by wanalooz
Robert, thanks for the detailed response, if money wasn't an issue are some nitrous kits Superior to others or do the best bargain systems have very similar performance and reliability to very expensive ones?
Well, it's a complicated answer. But certainly the cheap kits generally are not as complete and a lower grade of parts are used. However, we must not get value mixed up with cheap. One of the reasons I choose to go with Harris Speed Works as my main N2O supplier is the fact that they manufacture everything they sell. All engineering is done in house, as well as all machining. So now we have cut all the middle men and extra shipping and advertising out of the picture. What we are left with is a value priced product with only the best of the best components and parts. You would not believe how many nitrous companies just relabel existing products. By working directly for a nitrous company in the past, and now owning my own N2O company, we have seen how some jack the prices up just for the sake of greed. Don't get me wrong, we all want to make a buck, but also must be fair about the prices charged. Some companies will make paragraphs worth of claims on why their kits cost so much. No doubt some of it is true, however, a guilty conscious drives the defending factor, IMO. That's why we wanted "Service" in my company name, that's the benefit I try to offer and of course valued priced qulity products; over and above what Joe Nitrous and his company does to collect $$ as their only driving force. Sorry that I have jumped around and did some of my infamous babbling and will try to wrap this up.

Knowledge is key, why would Joe Nitrous be selling Kit Q, lets say a basic Wet kit, for $750, and John Spray is selling a seemingly comparative kit for $545. So lets look at the differences, if any, that we can find. We start by looking at the fittings, both are offering all SS, much better than brass and indicative to higher quality kits, so they seem equal there. We now look at solenoids, they both have SS bodies, Joe's kit has an orifice of .090 on the N2O solenoid and .200 on the fuel solenoid. Next, John's N2O solenoid is .125 and fuel solenoid is .250. What is this telling us. Joe is using smaller less expensive solenoids. Small solenoids can get hot, and due to heat induced electrical resistance, fail to open, not good (higher amp draw solenoids mean more powerful). We go through the rest of the kits and we see they each contain about the same items. Upon closer looking we realize that Joe's kit, due to the small solenoids, has braided lines that are one size smaller than Johns. Nothing to worry about, it seems. The reason behind this are simple, the small solenoids, due to the small orifice, will not support shots that require the bigger lines, and the small lines are cheaper to include. Think if we were to find this out when we wanted to up the shot past the 150hp that the small solenoids support, quite costly; we now need new solenoids, new lines and new fittings to get the bigger hit working. There may be other red flags or there may not. Joe sells many more kits than John. how could this be? A couple things come to mind instantly. Joe has targeted a group who loves the flashy packaging and the endless promoting; not to mention the carefully laid out justification for higher pricing. But it all comes down to knowledge and knowing what you want and what to look for. I am as guilty as the next guy, buying flashy products surrounded by excellent propaganda, on a whim because they just made me think that this was a deal i couldn't pass up. One other thing to point out, was this a real engineered kit, or was it thrown together with existing off the shelf parts? Most, by a large margin, fall in the latter category. Look for engineered kits that were made and designed especially for your platform. They will work much better, and perform at a safety level that will surpass the cheap one size fits all kits. Now of course, i am not pointing this toward anyone, nor any company, and it may be slightly blown out of proportion, but the points are there. The "Integrity" factor is not well proportioned in this, as well as most, industries. I hope that this made some kind of sense as it's pretty late here.

Robert

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