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Old Mar 13, 2009 | 03:38 AM
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I'm going to go with a Maggie charger instead of the vortek. This whole thing has left a bad taste in my mouth.

Looking for the best kit, with the best value attached. I would prefer a LPE M122 polished, but I'm not sure I want to fork out that cash...

What do you guys (Vendors) have?

Someone here mentioned getting a great deal from a manufacturer...Who was that?
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If you have desided to go that route, you should take a closer look at a TVS1900 vs. the 122.

Here's a link to Gary's recent MTI install in his mod'ed LS2, but it also covers a recent LS3 & Z06 installs. The new & improved TVS kits (1900 & 2300) are a much more efficent design over my 112 (or 122). Give MTI a call.

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-f...and-my-c6.html
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Originally Posted by Spying Beast
I'm going to go with a Maggie charger instead of the vortek. This whole thing has left a bad taste in my mouth.

Looking for the best kit, with the best value attached. I would prefer a LPE M122 polished, but I'm not sure I want to fork out that cash...

What do you guys (Vendors) have?

Someone here mentioned getting a great deal from a manufacturer...Who was that?
Are you going to install it yourself? I just did mine and can help with install questions if you need. I went with the 112 polished. I do not track the car. The 112 will give you about 50 more hp and torque from 1800 to 5500 (the diff drops off as you get closer to 5500) than the 122. The 122 will give you a little more at the top (about 20 hp, stock engine). If you are not going to build the car for the track, you should consider the 112. The 112 uses about 50 hp to run at WOT, the 122 uses about 80 hp at WOT. With the stock engine you will have better throttle response with the 112. PM me your email and I can send you Dynos on both (stock engine) so that you can compare.
The 122 polished will cost you about 700.00 more than the 112 polished.
Plus you will have more hood choices with the 112, with out having to mod them.

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The LPE kit does have some nice upgrades with it.

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Originally Posted by m_LeDez
If you have desided to go that route, you should take a closer look at a TVS1900 vs. the 122.

Here's a link to Gary's recent MTI install in his mod'ed LS2, but it also covers a recent LS3 & Z06 installs. The new & improved TVS kits (1900 & 2300) are a much more efficent design over my 112 (or 122). Give MTI a call.

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-f...and-my-c6.html

That car makes some really good numbers.... (612/550) at the wheels.

Does anyone have numbers of a maggie 112/122 w/ h/c package? That would be a better comparison. I know they aren't *** efficient, etc... but I like the sounds of the maggie vs. the TVS, personally.
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What bad taste did it leave?


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I'm going to go with a Maggie charger instead of the vortek. This whole thing has left a bad taste in my mouth.
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Old Mar 13, 2009 | 01:56 PM
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What bad taste did it leave?
Same question!

As far as Maggie goes, wait for TVS1900 from Magnason or you can get one from MTI. Don't waste your money on M122.
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Old Mar 13, 2009 | 06:10 PM
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I'm going to go with a Maggie charger instead of the vortek. This whole thing has left a bad taste in my mouth.
So what happened with the used A&A system you are selling now? It seemed like the way to go at the time
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Old Mar 13, 2009 | 10:42 PM
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So what happened with the used A&A system you are selling now? It seemed like the way to go at the time
Honestly, I'd rather not air dirty laundry on the public forums. A&A are respected members, and I don't want to drag their name through the mud.

Let's just say that things weren't what they were promised, and the lack of support was.......uuuum, unacceptable. I will never in my life support that company. Sorry to all of you satisfied A&A guys, it just works out like that some times, and being 3000 miles away makes things more difficult. Beyond that I couldn't even BUY a set of installation instructions from ECS which shows their desire to service a fellow forum member. I wouldn't even buy an o-ring from either of them!

And to those two Vendors, PLEASE don't get me started, because I'm seriously holding my tongue right now, but will let it ALL out if you choose to engage.
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Originally Posted by Spying Beast
I'm going to go with a Maggie charger instead of the vortek. This whole thing has left a bad taste in my mouth.

Looking for the best kit, with the best value attached. I would prefer a LPE M122 polished, but I'm not sure I want to fork out that cash...

What do you guys (Vendors) have?

Someone here mentioned getting a great deal from a manufacturer...Who was that?
Look at it this way......things happen for a reason. You are going to be extremely happy in the end with your maggie. And you will be even happier when you find out how reliable it will be, how cool it sounds, how much better it looks, and how you will never know it is there...until you plant your foot. No regrets.....long live the Maggie!!!!
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Questions I have. May have not read into this more but here goes.

Was this kit used?

Why did you spilt this kit? Half A&A and Half ECS?

Why would the vendors not send you instructions?

This is a forum and everyone is going to ask questions and any issues members have so they will not make the same mistakes as you made. If the vendors will not make it right then why does it matter dragging whoever in the mud. Customer service seems to be great with both vendors but not with you...There is a reason for everything I guess...


Good luck with your maggie and there customer service!!!!
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Questions I have. May have not read into this more but here goes.

Was this kit used?

Why did you spilt this kit? Half A&A and Half ECS?

Why would the vendors not send you instructions?

This is a forum and everyone is going to ask questions and any issues members have so they will not make the same mistakes as you made. If the vendors will not make it right then why does it matter dragging whoever in the mud. Customer service seems to be great with both vendors but not with you...There is a reason for everything I guess...


Good luck with your maggie and there customer service!!!!
The only things used on this kit are the Inter Cooler & piping, the BAP & the injectors. The entire A&A side is brand spanking new! Head unit, brackets, belt, etc.

As far as the ECS instructions, the only response I got from them was that "the instructions come with the kit, along with your ECS T-shirt". I guess that means that if you didn't buy their kit, your S.O.L. With respect to any help from them. They did say that they were working on a PDF, but a week later, I've still got nothing. A&A, that's a different story entirely, I won't even go there.

The kit is perfect, and besides the Pin Kit (that was supposed to be included), you won't need anything...

"Why was the kit split up" you ask. Andy said that he would build me a kit for a great price (which it was), but that included the used ECS Inter Cooler & "new" A&A stuff, along with new BAP, injectors, and a 4" pulley. This one has a 3.8".
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Old Mar 14, 2009 | 02:42 PM
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So, that's all in the past....

Which vendors sell Magnuson Chargers, and who has bought one, and been taken care of...?
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Originally Posted by Spying Beast
I'm going to go with a Maggie charger instead of the vortek. This whole thing has left a bad taste in my mouth.

Looking for the best kit, with the best value attached. I would prefer a LPE M122 polished, but I'm not sure I want to fork out that cash...

What do you guys (Vendors) have?

Someone here mentioned getting a great deal from a manufacturer...Who was that?
Bad taste? From what? You had the best kit and the best value!
Your gaining nothing with the Maggie.
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Old Mar 14, 2009 | 02:57 PM
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I would not get a Magnacharger MP112 or an MP122; they work OK and make decent power, but it is a very old, outdated design with very low efficiency; try and get a TVS blower or a Twin Screw (I think there is a vendor here selling KB kits?) and you will enjoy much higher efficiencies, translating into more horsepower and a cooler running engine... If prices between the two (roots and TVS) are similar, the TVS would be a no-brainer.
Those are my 2 cents worth. I got a ride in a Kenne Bell supercharged C5 Z06 and it was EPIC. The car made over 500 foot pounds of torque at the wheels by 2200RPM and pulled as hard as my car does EVERYWHERE in its powerband... If I get another 'Vette it will have to e FI, and my next blower will probably be a Twin Screw, assuming the vendors get their s...t together and finally come up with one that bolts on and doesn't cost several grand over a centrifugal...

You need to contact:
MTI Racing, 770-919-7774 and ask them about their TVS kit for the C6

Then talk to Jeff at Total performance Engineering, 702-632-0270 and ask him about his Kenne Bell kit for the C6.
I would pick one of the two; either one should produce fantastic results; those are very efficient blowers that have proven themselves by making reliable HP in many cars. The kits are very new, so C6 results are sparse, and make sure to ask questions about the install, since you will have to do it yourself or find someone local to help you...

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Originally Posted by Spying Beast
So, that's all in the past....

Which vendors sell Magnuson Chargers, and who has bought one, and been taken care of...?
Lingenfelter!!!!!!!!! The install instructions are extremely detailed and easy to follow. I had LPE do the complete install. Don't listen to these jokers that talk down the maggies......I assure you they have probably never ridden in a vette with one, and on the street......the maggies will crush other superchargers for instant stump pulling torque from red light to red light. Here is a video of my car......enjoy the music, and better yet....enjoy the "whine" of the maggie.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E6X99PWtWMM
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Bad taste? From what? You had the best kit and the best value!
Your gaining nothing with the Maggie.

See the above posts.

I'm going with a Maggie ONLY because the two most respected "best kit" vendors on the forums let me down, so I'm kinda stuck with my options (kinda). I would go with another vendor, but I've not heard "everyone" raving about their kits...

I've always liked the polished Magnuson look, and don't need another 200whp. I think I can get just where I want to be (550-600 whp)with a 112 Maggie, plus I'd get what is in my humble opinion, a much better looking kit (don't hate fellas!). If I have to buy a new hood, so be it. If I have to upgrade my clutch, well that's fine too.

By the way, it has been brought to my attention that the head unit is an Si trim, not T trim as promised....
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Originally Posted by Spying Beast
Honestly, I'd rather not air dirty laundry on the public forums. A&A are respected members, and I don't want to drag their name through the mud.

Let's just say that things weren't what they were promised, and the lack of support was.......uuuum, unacceptable. I will never in my life support that company. Sorry to all of you satisfied A&A guys, it just works out like that some times, and being 3000 miles away makes things more difficult. Beyond that I couldn't even BUY a set of installation instructions from ECS which shows their desire to service a fellow forum member. I wouldn't even buy an o-ring from either of them!

And to those two Vendors, PLEASE don't get me started, because I'm seriously holding my tongue right now, but will let it ALL out if you choose to engage.
Granted I've never dealt with ECS, Plenty have, never saw this about either one.
I think your a troll, and your car won't see a blower of any kind.
If you would have just bought a kit. Instead you ask Andy to save
you some money and make you a kit and them you sell it before you get it on. A&A instructions are on the web site. Doesn't your kit have a A&A bracket.Then you bad mouth what what you wanted a cheap kit!Andy answers the phone and takes care of you, Thats for sure.

So this post is all crap. I have just received my fourth order from A&A..
He even gives good prices and great service.
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Originally Posted by jwsmith
Lingenfelter!!!!!!!!! The install instructions are extremely detailed and easy to follow. I had LPE do the complete install. Don't listen to these jokers that talk down the maggies......I assure you they have probably never ridden in a vette with one, and on the street......the maggies will crush other superchargers for instant stump pulling torque from red light to red light. Here is a video of my car......enjoy the music, and better yet....enjoy the "whine" of the maggie.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E6X99PWtWMM
No joking here buddy; the Roots kit works OK, but the technology is over 50 years old and efficiencies are around 55%; we have come a LONG ways since the original 3 lobed rotor design Magnacharger uses and I am simply pointing out that the TVS and KB will make a lot more power while producing a lot less heat; it is a better design and given the choice between a roots and a TVS or a Twin Screw, you would be downgrading a lot to stick with the roots.
BTW take a look at 1/4 mile times for Magnacharger cars vs centrifugal cars and re-evaluate your idea that one will crush the other

Iron blocks and solid rear axles worked awesome in the 50s too, but that does not mean that's as good as it gets today
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Originally Posted by Rock'n Blue 08
Granted I've never dealt with ECS, Plenty have, never saw this about either one.
I think your a troll
Rock'nBlue, he is not a troll, I would really refrain from making a comment like that when you don't know both sides of the story. That is completely uncalled for.
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No joking here buddy; the Roots kit works OK, but the technology is over 50 years old and efficiencies are around 55%; we have come a LONG ways since the original 3 lobed rotor design Magnacharger uses and I am simply pointing out that the TVS and KB will make a lot more power while producing a lot less heat; it is a better design and given the choice between a roots and a TVS or a Twin Screw, you would be downgrading a lot to stick with the roots.
BTW take a look at 1/4 mile times for Magnacharger cars vs centrifugal cars and re-evaluate your idea that one will crush the other

Iron blocks and solid rear axles worked awesome in the 50s too, but that does not mean that's as good as it gets today
When I ordered my maggie....I had no idea the TVS units were on the horizon....would I have waited???? Probably....but I am extremely happy my LPE maggie at this point, matter of fact I love it. The comment I made about crushing other superchargers....was red light to red light.....I know the centrifugal units come on at higher rpms and prevail in the quarter mile....but daily street driving....not really sure how it gets much better than a roots.....until now...the TVS.
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