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Old May 21, 2009 | 06:38 PM
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I looked for a previous thread and couldn't find any so I'm asking....
How many of you guys out there with ADDED power to you corvettes are running Octane Boost. They range from $3.99 to $14.99 and I'm sure there are more expensive ones out there but that's the general cost by me. What brands are you using and do you feel like it's worth it. Thanks, Charlie C6 ROLLER
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Not worth it, at all.

However, the guy on this forum that sells the stuff will be here shortly to tell you just how wrong I am.

With that being said, I made an open challenge (in this forum) for him to prove his product's ability to actually boost octane substantially (have it verified by a third party). I told him I'd pay for the test (up front) and if it failed third-party verification, then he had to pay for the tests.

The bet wasn't accepted.

An alternative that DOES work is methanol injection!
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I just found the "CLOSED THREAD" on Octane Boost. I had to use Torco in the search bar to get a result. I am still listening and interested in others results with it. Let's all play nice and maybe I can get a few responses. Thanks Again, Charlie
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I see no benefit except safety from detonation.
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There is a guy in California (the guy Ed is talking about) who is doing it. I happened to talk to his tuner and he also claims that Torco is where some of that power is coming from.
A&A also tuned a C6 Z06 with a blower here that made some incredible numbers for 91 octane, and they credit some of that power gain to using a bottle of octane booster in the tank..
Both those examples are on 91 octane gas. A bottle of MMT IS able to bump it up a few points in octane rating; it doesn't work quite as well for 93 octane though.
Old May 21, 2009 | 07:27 PM
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Originally Posted by PowerLabs
There is a guy in California (the guy Ed is talking about) who is doing it. I happened to talk to his tuner and he also claims that Torco is where some of that power is coming from.
A&A also tuned a C6 Z06 with a blower here that made some incredible numbers for 91 octane, and they credit some of that power gain to using a bottle of octane booster in the tank..
Both those examples are on 91 octane gas. A bottle of MMT IS able to bump it up a few points in octane rating; it doesn't work quite as well for 93 octane though.
Yep, it has been proven that torco can increase power in 91 octane situations.
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2 words... Methanol Injection...
Old May 23, 2009 | 11:45 PM
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I mix torco with 91 octane, for about 95 octane, and methanol injection. the torco concentrate does increase octane I don,t know about power. i used the torco mixed with 91 octane on my 1050cc 3 cylinder 4 stroke snowmobile with 10 to 1 compression at 25lbs boost with two stages of nitrous with out any problems, if it didn,t increase the octane that motor never would have lasted one pull.
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I "Will" take you up on the challenge. I am assuming you are referring to TORCO.

Both myself, and Jim Bell, the owner of Kenne Bell superchargers were skeptics just like you. We sent a can off to have it tested. I was freaking floored as to the results. Since then, Jim Bell, even had Carol Shelby (Shelby Automotive) test it. Now Both Carol AND Jim buy it from Joel.

Sooo, that being said, I will be MORE than happy to buy the Torco. You set up the test, and I will do whatever you want me to do with it. When it passes, you publicly admit your a changed man, AND pay for my case of Torco.. If your right, i'll fly out to Cali, and smack Joel around for costing me so much money..

But there are ALOT of well respected tuners on this board who swear by it. My shop is one of them. I am the ONLY other person on this board who has actually tested it first hand, AND paid for it.


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Not worth it, at all.

With that being said, I made an open challenge (in this forum) for him to prove his product's ability to actually boost octane substantially (have it verified by a third party). I told him I'd pay for the test (up front) and if it failed third-party verification, then he had to pay for the tests.

The bet wasn't accepted.
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Originally Posted by Jeff @ TPE
I "Will" take you up on the challenge. I am assuming you are referring to TORCO.

Both myself, and Jim Bell, the owner of Kenne Bell superchargers were skeptics just like you. We sent a can off to have it tested. I was freaking floored as to the results. Since then, Jim Bell, even had Carol Shelby (Shelby Automotive) test it. Now Both Carol AND Jim buy it from Joel.

Sooo, that being said, I will be MORE than happy to buy the Torco. You set up the test, and I will do whatever you want me to do with it. When it passes, you publicly admit your a changed man, AND pay for my case of Torco.. If your right, i'll fly out to Cali, and smack Joel around for costing me so much money..

But there are ALOT of well respected tuners on this board who swear by it. My shop is one of them. I am the ONLY other person on this board who has actually tested it first hand, AND paid for it.
Now that takes *****!!
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I've used Torco for years and can attest to its effectiveness in raising the octane numbers as stated. The only down side to Torco that I've heard complained about is the "orange/brown" residue that it leaves on the plugs, pistons, exhaust tips and rear fascia.

Enter Klotz - Klotz Octane Booster is as effective, if not better at raising octane and leaves no residue. If you need any, call...we stock it in bulk and drop ship cases.


KLOTZ OCTANE BOOSTER

Klotz is the leader and innovator in producing Octane Boosters and still the front runner in actual numbers of octane increased per ounce and cost effectiveness. Klotz Octane Booster provides extra strength in building octane and upper cylinder lubrication. One ounce per gallon of gasoline will raise the octane 2-1/2 numbers. Proper octane level helps eliminate pre-ignition and detonation, allowing engine to run cooler and to its fullest potential.

Klotz Octane Booster is environmentally safe and provides lubrication benefits equal to tetraethyl lead. Formulated to increase octane ratings of leaded or unleaded gasoline by 10 numbers or more if desired. Klotz Octane Booster is designed as a legal additive in all types of stock class racing. Adding more Octane Booster to gasoline than needed is not necessarily harmful, but simply becomes non-effective past a certain point. No more than 120 total octane can be achieved with gasoline as a fuel by nature. Using a significantly higher octane content than required can actually reduce power, as the effect of the slow burning fuel produces less combustion pressure. Klotz Octane Booster is also an excellent gasoline stabilizer preserving gasoline up to 16 months during storage.

Tests indicate the yield these added benefits...

* 1 oz. per gallon raises octane 2-1/2 numbers - 2 to 3 oz. per gallon produces significantly racy exhaust odor.
* Helps stop pre-ignition & detonation -Absorbs water condensation
* Helps stop engine run on & Cleans Fuel injectors
* Allows higher compression ratios & increases throttle response
* Provides upper cylinder lubrication equal to lead
* Preserves gasoline in fuel tank up to 16 months


PERFORMANCE APPLICATION DIRECTIONS: One ounce per gallon will raise the octane 2.5 numbers, for racing add 3oz. per gal. of fuel. (Octane can be raised 10 numbers or more if desired). Experiment by trial and error to find the most suitable combination. To help eliminate varnish build-up in carburetor and fuel systems on a regular day to day basis, add one ounce to two gallons of gas periodically. Klotz Octane Booster has extra strength which makes it very effective & because of this it must be packaged in metal containers to maintain its strength. WARNING: DO NOT mix with Nitromethane, a violent reaction or explosion will occur. However, this product CAN be used with the Klotz NITRO Propanol additive as shown above.

STORAGE APPLICATION DIRECTIONS: Add one ounce per gallon to preserve gasoline from 6-8 months. Or two ounces per gallon for 12-16 months storage.

Flash point 125 degrees ~ SAFE FOR UNLEADED and CATALYTIC CONVERTER APPLICATIONS

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Effective octane boosters, like Torco & Koltz , have their place.
Nice to have a quart in the back when good fuel availability is suspect. Even with the methanol you don't want bad gas. You set the car up and that included good gas.
It's good insurance, especially in higher HP builds $$$$$.
Have used Kemco for years, (a highly effective leaded octane booster for early model motors) to keep my 540 happy at 11.5:1 compression on the street.
When you are playing on the edge insurance is important...especially when you think you are gonna be into her abit.

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Charlie's product is the best octane booster!!!{klotz}
I have a case on order and have heard from several people Who have used it and love it's benefits!!






ps,,,,,,where's my case Charlie???
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I may try that stuff out.

Have you done any back to back testing?

How is the cost comparrison?
Originally Posted by C_Williams@RPM
I've used Torco for years and can attest to its effectiveness in raising the octane numbers as stated. The only down side to Torco that I've heard complained about is the "orange/brown" residue that it leaves on the plugs, pistons, exhaust tips and rear fascia.
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Can we assume octane boost is helpful if only 91 octane is available or can it make a noticeable difference with 93 also.
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Charlie----does the Klotz also leave a colored residue similar to Torco?
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I've been buying Torco by the 5 gallon can.Haven't seen it for sale lately?

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interesting thread...

We can only get 91 octane in Hawaii, and I don't run meth as my tuner said that my tune is safe, and that he's trying to keep things simple. My fear is that the meth injector will fail, and BOOM, 15k later, I'm rolling again....

I wonder if an ounce per gallon would help keep my vette safe(er).



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Charlie----does the Klotz also leave a colored residue similar to Torco?
No, nothing left and that's the primary reason I switched from Torco -
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Originally Posted by Jeff @ TPE
I may try that stuff out.

Have you done any back to back testing?

How is the cost comparrison?
Jeff, the cost is about the same, no big difference really.

Several former Torco users have done empirical testing by way of switching brands and not having any detonation. I've done the same and find no issues whatsover.



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