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Old Oct 23, 2009 | 04:53 PM
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Someone needs to figure out how to turn the voltage gauge in the c-6
cluster to a boost gauge. The ZR-1 has it in the same spot. Seems it would be possible to convert it to show boost!
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Old Oct 23, 2009 | 05:03 PM
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The problem would be finding a boost gauge to fit without cutting up the cluster to badly.
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Old Oct 23, 2009 | 05:10 PM
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Seems like a lot of work. As nice as a pillar pods are these days, that's the way I'd go.
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Seems like a lot of work. As nice as a pillar pods are these days, that's the way I'd go.
Have you seen the Autometer pillar pod for the C6? I have one and it not so great. It also does not fully cover the lower part and also does not fit great at the lower part even with heating and remolding it. You would think with all the products for our cars one the vendors on this forum would make a better one that is wrapped in factory vinyl. I would buy one in a second even with the corvette premium.

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The problem would be finding a boost gauge to fit without cutting up the cluster to badly.
No your missing it! The factory voltage gauge in the cluster
is electronic. Use it to read boost, Need some type of sending unit
reading boost to send a signal to the gauge. Just all the correct values need to be figued. Someone CAN DO IT!
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Old Oct 23, 2009 | 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by skamp
Have you seen the Autometer pillar pod for the C6? I have one and it not so great. It also does not fully cover the lower part and also does not fit great at the lower part even with heating and remolding it. You would think with all the products for our cars one the vendors on this forum would make a better one that is wrapped in factory vinyl. I would buy one in a second even with the corvette premium.

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That is why I run with no gauges, The A pillar ones
Look corny!
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That is why I run with no gauges, The A pillar ones
Look corny!
then how are you going to know if you have a problem? Low boost pressure will show a belt slip or bad belt tensioner or more major problems.

A low fuel pressure will give you a warning before you blow up your engine. Right now you are just hoping that everything is fine on your car.

I found out that I had a bad tensioner because my boost pressure dropped. It help me find out the problem before something major happened.

Most people here are running the gauges not because they look good but will help us find a problem before major engine work would be needed. At least that is my personal opinion.

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The ZR1 gauge cluster already has a boost gauge. There you have it and you can use all GM parts.

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May not be so simple as changing out the Instrument Panel Cluster (IPC) with a ZR1 version. The IPC gets the information needed to drive the gauges (all of them) by way of a Class 2 Serial Data link with the Engine Control Module (ECM).

You would need to have an E38 model of the ECM (09 or later vehicles I think).

To get the correct messages sent to the IPC I expect that you would need to enable the supercharger processing in the ECM to make it think you had an LS9. (Can be done via HP Tuner) Doing this would require that you also have all the sensors used by the ECM to support the LS9.

This could become a very complex task, and with all the work involved you would still have a IPC that had the ZR1 logo on it. Fine if you area wanabe! not good if your not.
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Originally Posted by Rock'n Blue 08
No your missing it! The factory voltage gauge in the cluster
is electronic. Use it to read boost, Need some type of sending unit
reading boost to send a signal to the gauge. Just all the correct values need to be figued. Someone CAN DO IT!
Then your just going to have to open up the cluster and measure the signal going to the gauge then compare with an electronic boost gauge sending unit.
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Originally Posted by Rock'n Blue 08
No your missing it! The factory voltage gauge in the cluster
is electronic. Use it to read boost, Need some type of sending unit
reading boost to send a signal to the gauge. Just all the correct values need to be figued. Someone CAN DO IT!

About 2 years ago (maybe less), while I was visiting Callaway in CT, they (Mike V.) told me they were looking into that approach, using the ZR1 Boost Gauge as an option in place of the Voltage Gauge on the C6 and said if they did, they would cut a special deal with all their previous customers who wanted the upgrade.

I haven't spoken to them since so I don't know where it stands now.

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It would take a lot of work and it won't be worth it. The ZR1 uses the E67 PCM, which is totally different than the E38 that is used from 06 through current Corvettes. If you are willing to install a E67 and run a ZR1 engine cal, it can be done but it won't be easy and it won't be cheap. Plus it may or may not communicate with the existing BCM, EBTCM and other devices that talk to the PCM.
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It would take a lot of work and it won't be worth it. The ZR1 uses the E67 PCM, which is totally different than the E38 that is used from 06 through current Corvettes. If you are willing to install a E67 and run a ZR1 engine cal, it can be done but it won't be easy and it won't be cheap. Plus it may or may not communicate with the existing BCM, EBTCM and other devices that talk to the PCM.
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I'm currently running an A-pillar pod as well. I would jump at the opportunity to have the gauges in a different spot. There just aren't that many options that really make sense
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