First Impressions / E-Force on LS2
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Has edelbrock made any warranty claims concerning the use of meth injection? It works great on the KB twin screw. I just added it to a friends car with the KB 2.8. Its 100% meth. It cools the IAT chanrge to a lesser degree but it shows on the scans. The real benefit is the octane.
Any plans to add it to your car?
Any plans to add it to your car?
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Has edelbrock made any warranty claims concerning the use of meth injection? It works great on the KB twin screw. I just added it to a friends car with the KB 2.8. Its 100% meth. It cools the IAT chanrge to a lesser degree but it shows on the scans. The real benefit is the octane.
Any plans to add it to your car?
Any plans to add it to your car?
Last edited by 10mikeymike; Aug 31, 2010 at 10:40 PM.
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I would first try what 5 liter eater suggested first, program the fan to turn on a little sooner and kick up to 90% at 200-205, and add more distilled water and water wetter and see what that does first.
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I still plan to replace the radiator, but between now and then, I will do some experimenting. I took the car out last night after the temp's. dropped into the low 80's. The coolant temperature averaged between 208 & 210. Earlier after driving home in medium heavy traffic and 91 degrees it got up to 226. After I shut the car off the fan came on and ran for close to 5 minutes. I've noticed that it always seems to be running when I turn the car off. This was the first time it came on with the ignition off. It's amazing how much heat the Edelbrock coil covers retain. They really make the install look good, but I think they exacerbate the heat situation.
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I still plan to replace the radiator, but between now and then, I will do some experimenting. I took the car out last night after the temp's. dropped into the low 80's. The coolant temperature averaged between 208 & 210. Earlier after driving home in medium heavy traffic and 91 degrees it got up to 226. After I shut the car off the fan came on and ran for close to 5 minutes. I've noticed that it always seems to be running when I turn the car off. This was the first time it came on with the ignition off. It's amazing how much heat the Edelbrock coil covers retain. They really make the install look good, but I think they exacerbate the heat situation.
Keep us posted on how it's working for you.. and thanks for posting!
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St. Jude Donor '11
It's labor intensive but yanking the condensor and radiator and blowing/tapping out the crap that gets lodged in there helps as well. I could have re-seeded my back yard with what came out of mine.
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I still plan to replace the radiator, but between now and then, I will do some experimenting. I took the car out last night after the temp's. dropped into the low 80's. The coolant temperature averaged between 208 & 210. Earlier after driving home in medium heavy traffic and 91 degrees it got up to 226. After I shut the car off the fan came on and ran for close to 5 minutes. I've noticed that it always seems to be running when I turn the car off. This was the first time it came on with the ignition off. It's amazing how much heat the Edelbrock coil covers retain. They really make the install look good, but I think they exacerbate the heat situation.
on the coil covers holding heat...mine only go on for show/photos...spend the rest of their time on the shelf
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I'd sure clean it before spending the cash for a new radiator. My LS3 with maggie TVS has no heating problems. It will get up to 190 to 195 in stop and go traffic. 180 to 185 at cruise. I can let it idle with the a/c on for 5+ minutes standing still and not get over 210. That's in 95 degree heat. I have an M6....maybe that's the difference.
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I've already committed for the radiator and I'm sure it can only improve things. In the meanhwhile, I think I'll experiment with the coil covers off and see what kind of difference that makes. It's been in the 90's here for the past 4 days. The beauty of living in Michigan is that it's only supposed to be in the 60's this weekend. Unfortunately, it could snow the week after next and I'd have to put the car away till Spring. 
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I still plan to replace the radiator, but between now and then, I will do some experimenting. I took the car out last night after the temp's. dropped into the low 80's. The coolant temperature averaged between 208 & 210. Earlier after driving home in medium heavy traffic and 91 degrees it got up to 226. After I shut the car off the fan came on and ran for close to 5 minutes. I've noticed that it always seems to be running when I turn the car off. This was the first time it came on with the ignition off. It's amazing how much heat the Edelbrock coil covers retain. They really make the install look good, but I think they exacerbate the heat situation.
I see coolant temps of 185 cruising down the highway, nothing higher than 205 after sitting at a stoplight in the heat with the A/C on full. Coolant is a 50/50 mix of Dexcool.
The DeWitt's doubles the radiator capacity and eliminates the plastic tank ends, for me the upgrade while doing the radiator was an easy choice.
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I'd sure clean it before spending the cash for a new radiator. My LS3 with maggie TVS has no heating problems. It will get up to 190 to 195 in stop and go traffic. 180 to 185 at cruise. I can let it idle with the a/c on for 5+ minutes standing still and not get over 210. That's in 95 degree heat. I have an M6....maybe that's the difference.
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I just picked up my 2007 from EnglandGreen on Monday. Bone stock until they installed the E-Force and a DeWitt's radiator.
I see coolant temps of 185 cruising down the highway, nothing higher than 205 after sitting at a stoplight in the heat with the A/C on full. Coolant is a 50/50 mix of Dexcool.
The DeWitt's doubles the radiator capacity and eliminates the plastic tank ends, for me the upgrade while doing the radiator was an easy choice.
I see coolant temps of 185 cruising down the highway, nothing higher than 205 after sitting at a stoplight in the heat with the A/C on full. Coolant is a 50/50 mix of Dexcool.
The DeWitt's doubles the radiator capacity and eliminates the plastic tank ends, for me the upgrade while doing the radiator was an easy choice.
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Was there any particular reason you chose the DeWitt's over the BeCool or another brand? Enjoy your new E-Force.
Yes, I have DeWitt's in my 62 and 65 vettes and find their quality to be beyond compare. So I wanted to give them my business for the 07 as well. Having a manual transmission car without the Z51 package, the radiator for me is
http://www.dewitts.com/pages/product...asp?ProdID=380
I had them include their black-ice coating (black paint) so that it would hide in plain sight in the car.
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At first glance I thought the pic was photoshopped - but ouch it is real!
But you know it would make one crazy avatar pic, almost like the Lexus is trying to lay a kiss on your Vette - I'll go away now :o
But you know it would make one crazy avatar pic, almost like the Lexus is trying to lay a kiss on your Vette - I'll go away now :o
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On a more constructive note - a Z06 exhaust rigged up so that you can manually control the flaps is a nice way to go - I have this on my pro-charged C6 and I use the home link buttins on my visor to manually open and close as I wish. The 3" Z06 exhaust doesn't restrict and sounds great. You can also do the Z06 mod on the cans if you want some nice barbling action when you let off the gas. Known plenty of guys who have gone the louder exhaust route at the same time they installed a bunch of other power mods and many have eventually gone to something quieter...
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On a more constructive note - a Z06 exhaust rigged up so that you can manually control the flaps is a nice way to go - I have this on my pro-charged C6 and I use the home link buttins on my visor to manually open and close as I wish. The 3" Z06 exhaust doesn't restrict and sounds great. You can also do the Z06 mod on the cans if you want some nice barbling action when you let off the gas. Known plenty of guys who have gone the louder exhaust route at the same time they installed a bunch of other power mods and many have eventually gone to something quieter...
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The reference to bucking and surging was a bit of an exaggeration. There's a small amount of surging at off-idle speeds and a little bucking on trailing throttle deceleration. The combnined result of the performance mod's. changed the car's personality from mild mannered to much more agressive. The cam has blower friendly spec's. of 224/236 .612/612 with a 118 LSA.
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