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Old Sep 26, 2010 | 08:26 PM
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Whats the most power being made with a Supercharger on a stock block LS7
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Originally Posted by NJLS708
Whats the most power being made with a Supercharger on a stock block LS7
Do you want stock block or stock shortblock with stock internals? We made 1104rwhp through an RPM 4L80 with a ProCharger F2 using a stock block/heads with a good rotating assembly.
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Sorry, I should have specified stock short block and internals.
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Whats the most power being made with a Supercharger on a stock block LS7
Don't know about the most but adding just the A&A kit and ARH Headers with the standard "si" trim. Adds insane power level to the Z. The Z gets up
and goes. It should be around 670rwhp and 600 rwtq with the 3.8 pulley.
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Originally Posted by Rock'n Blue 08
Don't know about the most but adding just the A&A kit and ARH Headers with the standard "si" trim. Adds insane power level to the Z. The Z gets up
and goes. It should be around 670rwhp and 600 rwtq with the 3.8 pulley.
That's exactly what mine is making. 677rwhp to be exact. That's why I was curious.
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I have a stock block LS7 in my 06Z with a cam, headers, exhaust, high flow cats, Mcleod RXT twin, a D1SC @ 9psi, meth and we put down 770/667 in 102 degree air. Here is a the dyno sheet and a shot of the engine bay.





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There was a guy not to long ago that had a YSI on a stock ls7 making 801rw.

The stock internals / block did not last very long though...
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I have a stock block LS7 in my 06Z with a cam, headers, exhaust, high flow cats, Mcleod RXT twin, a D1SC @ 9psi, meth and we put down 770/667 in 102 degree air. Here is a the dyno sheet and a shot of the engine bay.




Those are impressive numbers. You are running stock pistons, rods and crank? Is your meth kit dual nozzle or single?
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Originally Posted by BADZ
There was a guy not to long ago that had a YSI on a stock ls7 making 801rw.

The stock internals / block did not last very long though...
Making big power is easy...
Making big power last is not... Look at what goes into an LS9 engine so GM can warranty that motor....
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Making big power is easy...
Making big power last is not... Look at what goes into an LS9 engine so GM can warranty that motor....
That is kind of where I was going with this thread. I want to find out who is making big power with a stock short block and for how long.
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Originally Posted by NJLS708
That is kind of where I was going with this thread. I want to find out who is making big power with a stock short block and for how long.
Nobody can give a definate answer on what magic number is the max on stock internals under boost.

Funny thing is ... the block and pistons usually are not first to fail. Any pistons failures out there due to boost?

RPM had a thread of them running 11psi on a Procharger with stock LS7 internals well over 75 runs down the 1/4 miles without failure.
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Nobody can give a definate answer on what magic number is the max on stock internals under boost.

Funny thing is ... the block and pistons usually are not first to fail. Any pistons failures out there due to boost?

RPM had a thread of them running 11psi on a Procharger with stock LS7 internals well over 75 runs down the 1/4 miles without failure.
I know there is no absolute number as to what is max. I just want to see who is having the most success.
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You never know when and at what limit things are going to break. To prevent it from happening, there are several measures to take. The tune will help you last long time and also how much boost is applied. I have noticed on CF is that most are lasting in the mid 600 range and @ 6-8 psi.

Good luck.
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You never know when and at what limit things are going to break. To prevent it from happening, there are several measures to take. The tune will help you last long time and also how much boost is applied. I have noticed on CF is that most are lasting in the mid 600 range and @ 6-8 psi.

Good luck.
Thats where I am right now. 677rwhp with 7.6psi. I dont beat the snot out of it but I do get on it now and then and I have all of the safety measures built into the tune including pulling massive amounts of timing under hot conditions. I am also running meth. I have about 7,000 miles on the motor since the SC install and so far so good. Even so, I have $10,000 on the side just in case.
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Originally Posted by NJLS708
Those are impressive numbers. You are running stock pistons, rods and crank? Is your meth kit dual nozzle or single?


All stock internals, pistons, rods, crank. Cam is not strock of course. I am running dual nozzle meth and it's set up to start spraying as soon as I come into boost. I drive my car VERY hard and have about 5k miles of very hard driving on it. It's not a daily driver though.
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Originally Posted by flyinmedic
All stock internals, pistons, rods, crank. Cam is not strock of course. I am running dual nozzle meth and it's set up to start spraying as soon as I come into boost. I drive my car VERY hard and have about 5k miles of very hard driving on it. It's not a daily driver though.
Usually at HP numbers exceeding 700 the heads are gonna need some upgrading as well. Most of the big tuners with their high HP SC builds also upgrade the exhaust valves and springs... pistons and rods. Nothing worse than a <100.00 dollar part to grenade an entire 14k motor.

I'll take my chances with the short block at 650 rwhp. But I am upgrading the heads and adding dual valve springs, SS exhaust valves, and a trunion upgrade for the rocker arms along with my A&A S/C install. I'll also have money aside for a build motor.

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I am planning on a forged and sleeved block later if this doesn't blow up first. If it does then I'll probably do an LSX block and call it good
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But I am upgrading the heads and adding dual valve springs, SS exhaust valves, and a trunion upgrade for the rocker arms...
Very smart decision...
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Originally Posted by NJLS708
That is kind of where I was going with this thread. I want to find out who is making big power with a stock short block and for how long.
The important question would be: How much are these boosted Z06s getting driven, and how often do they get driven at full throttle? Your average C6Z owner is not a race car driver and the few that do race their cars typically don't want a blower. With a leisure cars driven for a couple thousand miles a year on public roads, even if you really didn't care about getting a ticket, it is hard to sustain more than a few seconds of full throttle at a time, much less under high boost conditions; 1st and 2nd gear are probably going to spin, 3rd takes you to 110MPH and 4rth goes to 165, and even if you did a pull from a standing start to 165 that still amounts to about 16 seconds of throttle and most of that won't be making anything near full boost. ... You might have, say, 10 thousand miles of driving on the car but unless it was tracked or run at the texas mile or similar, then during those 10K miles it probably saw about one minute at, say, 5PSI +.

Its food for thought. I *REALLY* want a C6Z for my next car, but I know I can't leave it stock, and I am very worried that it will break twice as fast as my LS2 car did because of the higher compression and thinner cylinder walls... I'm torn beetween an '08C6Z or an '10 Grand Sport. Still have a year to decide though.

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Originally Posted by PowerLabs
The important question would be: How much are these boosted Z06s getting driven, and how often do they get driven at full throttle? Your average C6Z owner is not a race car driver and the few that do race their cars typically don't want a blower. With a leisure cars driven for a couple thousand miles a year on public roads, even if you really didn't care about getting a ticket, it is hard to sustain more than a few seconds of full throttle at a time, much less under high boost conditions; 1st and 2nd gear are probably going to spin, 3rd takes you to 110MPH and 4rth goes to 165, and even if you did a pull from a standing start to 165 that still amounts to about 16 seconds of throttle and most of that won't be making anything near full boost. ... You might have, say, 10 thousand miles of driving on the car but unless it was tracked or run at the texas mile or similar, then during those 10K miles it probably saw about one minute at, say, 5PSI +.

Its food for thought. I *REALLY* want a C6Z for my next car, but I know I can't leave it stock, and I am very worried that it will break twice as fast as my LS2 car did because of the higher compression and thinner cylinder walls... I'm torn beetween an '08C6Z or an '10 Grand Sport. Still have a year to decide though.

Hey Sam I run my car pretty hard and I do race it even on the track. The car is built to run the Tx Mile and I will see how it does in March. I didn't get in this time. I went into this fully knowing this could blow at anytime but I also wanted to keep it a little safe which is why it's only 9psi. I truly believe it has alot to do with the tune and Taylor @ Dallas Performance is very good. You are correct though these things are ticking time bombs and most that have boosted Z's don't run them anywhere near as hard as I do. But if I don't there's no reason to even run around here in Dallas because there are many very fast cars here.
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