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Old May 11, 2011 | 11:14 PM
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Anyone know where I can find an appropriate sensor or appropriate setup for me to feed gear position into my future AMS boost controller? Definitely looking to boost by gear, just need to figure out how to feed gear position into unit.

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OMG YOU CAN'T LINK TO LS1TECH!!11!!

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They're both owned by IB so I doubt they care.
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Z06. Manual.

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Huh, I never thought of doing it that way. So instead of selecting boost by gear, they use speed which would give you a similar result such as what ever you wanted to boost for 1st do 0-50 or 60 mph then 60-90 for second and so on. Using something like this http://www.lingenfelter.com/mm5/merc...gory_Code=C163

Is this the only way you have seen it done. Never actually having s sensor to determine changes in shifter position and it be true boost by gear?
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Old May 12, 2011 | 12:42 PM
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I wouldn't get so excited yet. I have this unit and its not working properly, or at all.

It throws ABS/TC codes, which disables both and it causes my eBoost2 not to work correctly.

I only know one other person who has tested it besides me and he states that it throws codes on his cars, too.

I'm still waiting on Louis to get back with me about whats causing issues with mine.
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Disappointment! Definitely let us know what you find out.

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Disappointment! Definitely let us know what you find out.

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Will do.
I definitely want to give it a chance because I think its a slick idea, but I want it to work correctly, too.
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In his first post he mentioned something about he got it to work with Corvettes but he was trying to get it to work with other cars that didnt have the vette shift linkage. This implied to me that on corvettes he somehow reads actually shifter position or something and it would be TRUE boost by gear. Do you get that impression? I sent him PM to see what he says.
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The first string of thought was to go with a by gear setup and then it turned into a by wheel speed effort. Much simpler.
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Im working on a solution, I missed it the first time. Thanks for being patient Chris.

The actual sensor, like I stated on tech, would fail.

Im working on another solution for actual boost by speed/mph for the AMS 1/2000 guys. There is already one in a customers car, waiting for feed back.

Ive got some talented electronics guys that work with me, so itll be an inline adapter solution, chris.

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Originally Posted by Louis @ LG Motorsports
Im working on a solution, I missed it the first time. Thanks for being patient Chris.

The actual sensor, like I stated on tech, would fail.

Im working on another solution for actual boost by speed/mph for the AMS 1/2000 guys. There is already one in a customers car, waiting for feed back.

Ive got some talented electronics guys that work with me, so itll be an inline adapter solution, chris.

Louis


GPS GPS!!!

that would be the bomb
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Originally Posted by jatolbert
Anyone know where I can find an appropriate sensor or appropriate setup for me to feed gear position into my future AMS boost controller? Definitely looking to boost by gear, just need to figure out how to feed gear position into unit.

Thanks in advance,
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How bad are you spinning? I assume first, maybe second possibly even third gear?

What tire are you running. It is sort of a waste to throw away all that potential power in the lower gears when you could run a good tire and accually use the power.

FYI, with the Nitto 345/30-19 NT05R I can't spin in 2nd gear @ 800rwhp, short Z51 gearing too even down to 60 degrees outside with no burnout!

If your still spinning the big NT05R's too much then look into Davis Traction Control. No tapping into the ABS/speed sensors, no issues with running meth with it and it keeps you at the very edge of traction in ANY condition. I know it's a bit pricey but you know the saying, you get what you pay for. AMS is not cheap either.

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How bad are you spinning? I assume first, maybe second possibly even third gear?

What tire are you running. It is sort of a waste to throw away all that potential power in the lower gears when you could run a good tire and accually use the power.

FYI, with the Nitto 345/30-19 NT05R I can't spin in 2nd gear @ 800rwhp, short Z51 gearing too even down to 60 degrees outside with no burnout!

If your still spinning the big NT05R's too much then look into Davis Traction Control. No tapping into the ABS/speed sensors, no issues with running meth with it and it keeps you at the very edge of traction in ANY condition. I know it's a bit pricey but you know the saying, you get what you pay for. AMS is not cheap either.
Right now spinning in 1st and 2nd but Im on run flats (garbage traction). About to go to NTO5Rs or MT 345/35-18s. However I am at 750ish RWHP now but next month will be at 1300+ rwhp. Right in the middle of huge build. I feel confident in my ability to tune boost controller to do what I want to if I can supply it gear position. Also considering using measuring engine RPM and wheel speed to determine gear and do it that way. Also could compare engine RPM to front wheel speed to calculate tire spin and back feed that data to actively control boost (that method will require high response rate).
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Originally Posted by Louis @ LG Motorsports
Im working on a solution, I missed it the first time. Thanks for being patient Chris.

The actual sensor, like I stated on tech, would fail.

Im working on another solution for actual boost by speed/mph for the AMS 1/2000 guys. There is already one in a customers car, waiting for feed back.

Ive got some talented electronics guys that work with me, so itll be an inline adapter solution, chris.

Louis
I think I sent you PM this morning on TECH. Let me know if you get this thing working properly that I can use with an AMS-2000. Would be extremely interested.

Josh
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In have a ams 1000 and you can set it up time/gear or shift base.

Its an awesome boost controller....I dont know if the trans sensor puts out voltage but you can program it to that or shift based.

Seb should be able to help you.
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Originally Posted by jatolbert
Right now spinning in 1st and 2nd but Im on run flats (garbage traction). About to go to NTO5Rs or MT 345/35-18s. However I am at 750ish RWHP now but next month will be at 1300+ rwhp. Right in the middle of huge build. I feel confident in my ability to tune boost controller to do what I want to if I can supply it gear position. Also considering using measuring engine RPM and wheel speed to determine gear and do it that way. Also could compare engine RPM to front wheel speed to calculate tire spin and back feed that data to actively control boost (that method will require high response rate).
Louis would you like to post up a picture or describe in detail what you and Shannon Davis have designed to pick up the crank speed for my set up.

Takes a reading every 1/6th a turn of the DS/torque. should be able to detect slip within the first few inches of it happening.

No spinning for me!

Also the M/T 345's didn't hook very well for me with out a 4-5 second 2nd gear burnout. The NT05r's don't need a burnout if it is +70 degrees outside. And they look 10X better. The M/T are a tad bit better on the 60ft because of the sidewall.

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