Methanol self ignites under 900 F. I'd be willing to bet that header temps easily reach that point...
Problems with Snow Performance Meth?
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we have a Z06 with the same kit and it failed 3 times. we got brand new parts and still every month or two it will start leaking. fixed it three times and failed AGAIN! it will be off the car to the trash when we switch to E85......
Burning Brakes
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Yet many tune it that way.....my guess is to slightly reduce duty cycle while lowering inlet air temps. The funny part about it is the fact they are giving up the lower egts and higher octane when running a meth water blend.
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Edit: I see you run a diesel engine, not the same thing. Completely different dynamics.
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Burning Brakes
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I'll just let you stew on that for a while, and defer you back to my original comment.
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P.S. what a bunch of idiots we are for running hoses of a flammable substance through our engine bay, I don't know any cars that do that. . .
Wait. . . I meant I don't know any cars that doesn't do that, my bad.
Wait. . . I meant I don't know any cars that doesn't do that, my bad.
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Burning Brakes
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Burning Brakes
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Problem here is people use crappy components, not that they are dealing with a flammable liquid. Or maybe it's that people have less respect for methanol then gasoline and think they know enough to play with it themselves when they don't.
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On a side note, we usually run 100% meth. I think when we tested it at 25% water it stopped being flamable. But with a good IC and low IAT's there really wasn't enough heat to fully evaporate the water, so the compression increased, and we actually saw MORE detonation than without anything at all. I'm not the biggest fan of meth for such reasons, but I'll say it does have it's place, and some customers prefer it over E85
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You too? Why didn't you ever say anything? Do you have some of the failed fittings still? I'm going to try to have a sit down with Matt Snow, not sure if it will accomplish anything, but it's worth a try. My employee said that Matt did purchase an engine for a customer before with a failed meth kit, so ???? maybe. Course I can't 100% attribute it to the meth, but it does make sense.
On a side note, we usually run 100% meth. I think when we tested it at 25% water it stopped being flamable. But with a good IC and low IAT's there really wasn't enough heat to fully evaporate the water, so the compression increased, and we actually saw MORE detonation than without anything at all. I'm not the biggest fan of meth for such reasons, but I'll say it does have it's place, and some customers prefer it over E85
CK
On a side note, we usually run 100% meth. I think when we tested it at 25% water it stopped being flamable. But with a good IC and low IAT's there really wasn't enough heat to fully evaporate the water, so the compression increased, and we actually saw MORE detonation than without anything at all. I'm not the biggest fan of meth for such reasons, but I'll say it does have it's place, and some customers prefer it over E85
CK
I am sure he threw all the fittings away, but I will check for you. hopefully the shop kept them.
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Burning Brakes
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From: Howell Michigan
You too? Why didn't you ever say anything? Do you have some of the failed fittings still? I'm going to try to have a sit down with Matt Snow, not sure if it will accomplish anything, but it's worth a try. My employee said that Matt did purchase an engine for a customer before with a failed meth kit, so ???? maybe. Course I can't 100% attribute it to the meth, but it does make sense.
CK
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....and we also offer an upgrade to a stainless steel, magnetic drive pump and BLDC motor...not cheap but then again, what's the cost of an engine worth...
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If I was Snow I would jump in here. Admit the product is faulty and come up with a fix. Some pretty big hitters in here, and all of them don't have much nice to say about the kit.