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Old Nov 9, 2012 | 08:21 PM
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How are things going? Finished yet?? We look forward to hearing about it.
Yes sir, I finished around 1800 hrs. I took it for a test spin and all went well.

There were a few steps that I considered harder than the others. Reinstalling the front fascia, installing the pump's small hose, installing the blower (darn heavy) and routing that @#$% serpentine belt. I struggled with that belt for an hour.

If I were to install another SC it would be much easier. Live and learn.
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I had a problem with the horn hitting the air duct. I simply took my channel locks and bent the mount up a little for clearance. Is this a common probem?

Also, I think Edelbrock omitted the mounting studs for the engine covers. Couldn't find them or the grommet for the dip stick. Would they have been in the bag with the 4 large standoffs which I had?
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Old Nov 9, 2012 | 08:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Red Sleeper
Also, I think Edelbrock omitted the mounting studs for the engine covers. Couldn't find them or the grommet for the dip stick. Would they have been in the bag with the 4 large standoffs which I had?
Should be in a bag labeled #6


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what tune are you going to use?
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Old Nov 9, 2012 | 09:41 PM
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Should be in a bag labeled #6

I have everything there except the little thingie on the right. I also had four rubber grommets that mounted in the black brackets not shown. I only had one of the type grommets shown and that went in the air duct that housed the MAF sensor. I just cut some of the threads off the stock studs and they seem to be just fine and the covers look great. There is a small chance I have misplaced them. I'll look around a little more.

What a fine engineered setup. While installing it you can't help be think of all the time Edelbrock put into kit designing it. My hat's off to them.

Test drive - tires broke loose at the very top of second gear. No traction in first gear at al on stock Continentals and that's the way I want it!
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what tune are you going to use?
Edelbrock's tune, good enough for right now. I have only driven it for 10minutes but going on a cruise tomorrow and I will know more about then.

In case you don't know Edelbrock will send you a tune in a hand held device that you upload to the ECM.

I'll have it on the strip shortly.
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Old Nov 9, 2012 | 11:34 PM
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I cant wait to install my A&A kit, its sitting in the garage in this big box. Just too much work right now to get into it, Congrats on your install, cant wait to join the FI gang.
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Old Nov 10, 2012 | 09:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Red Sleeper
I have everything there except the little thingie on the right. I also had four rubber grommets that mounted in the black brackets not shown. I only had one of the type grommets shown and that went in the air duct that housed the MAF sensor. I just cut some of the threads off the stock studs and they seem to be just fine and the covers look great. There is a small chance I have misplaced them. I'll look around a little more.

What a fine engineered setup. While installing it you can't help be think of all the time Edelbrock put into kit designing it. My hat's off to them.

Test drive - tires broke loose at the very top of second gear. No traction in first gear at al on stock Continentals and that's the way I want it!
I want to make a correction - The four rubber grommets that I said were not shown were actually removed from the stock ones. I made it sound like they were part of the kit but they are not.
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Old Nov 10, 2012 | 09:34 AM
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I cant wait to install my A&A kit, its sitting in the garage in this big box. Just too much work right now to get into it, Congrats on your install, cant wait to join the FI gang.
You'll love it!!! However, it will be a fair amount of work for the typical backyard mechanic. My next hurdle will be the fuel pump and I'm in no hurry.
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My first 100 mile test drive through the mountains was good but i do have a technical question.

Gas mileage seems a bit too good to believe. On older C4's with ECM / PCM an increase in injector size meant a false higher reading in mileage. This was because we had no ability to change the math constants in the algorithm. I don't know if that is the case with todays ECM's in the C6's or not. It would be great if the gas mileage read out was correct nearly 28 mpg. I won't know until I fill up again. Is it possible to compensate the mileage readout after installing larger injectors?

Just an observation - Ride height has been affected more than I would have suspected. Adding close to 80 lbs definitely made the nose droop. I adjusted the ride height adjustment screws and raised it about to where it was. There are only 3 threads left on the adjustment screws. Anyone else who needs to make this adjustment needs to remove the wheel. Put jack under rotor and unbolt the bottom of the shock then lower jack to releave tension on the leaf spring so that turning the bolt isn't too difficult.
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Awesome thread, you knocked it out fast....
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Old Nov 10, 2012 | 10:08 PM
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I gathered as much, still iffy on the fascia removal. Have to schedule install about ten days out for tuner timeslot. Upgrading tires right now, the oem's spin at stock power level so something has to be done to keep it safe(er). I am not having to do the pump and read its a a bear. I have a decent garage and lift so that will help a bunch. Great job man, great job!
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Old Nov 11, 2012 | 09:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Red Sleeper
My first 100 mile test drive through the mountains was good but i do have a technical question.

Gas mileage seems a bit too good to believe. On older C4's with ECM / PCM an increase in injector size meant a false higher reading in mileage. This was because we had no ability to change the math constants in the algorithm. I don't know if that is the case with todays ECM's in the C6's or not. It would be great if the gas mileage read out was correct nearly 28 mpg. I won't know until I fill up again. Is it possible to compensate the mileage readout after installing larger injectors?

Just an observation - Ride height has been affected more than I would have suspected. Adding close to 80 lbs definitely made the nose droop. I adjusted the ride height adjustment screws and raised it about to where it was. There are only 3 threads left on the adjustment screws. Anyone else who needs to make this adjustment needs to remove the wheel. Put jack under rotor and unbolt the bottom of the shock then lower jack to releave tension on the leaf spring so that turning the bolt isn't too difficult.
I haven't looked at the edelbrock tune but depending on that the mileage readings could be skewed. If the injectors are less than 63lbs and the tune is not scaled in any way it should be correct though.
As far as ride height, the install definitely had an effect and I was scraping everywhere afterwards. Adjusting the height helped a bit but moving the battery to the right rear storage compartment really made a huge difference. That is a cheap and easy mod that is really worth doing.
Great job on the install. Enjoy it.
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Old Nov 11, 2012 | 04:32 PM
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I haven't looked at the edelbrock tune but depending on that the mileage readings could be skewed. If the injectors are less than 63lbs and the tune is not scaled in any way it should be correct though.
As far as ride height, the install definitely had an effect and I was scraping everywhere afterwards. Adjusting the height helped a bit but moving the battery to the right rear storage compartment really made a huge difference. That is a cheap and easy mod that is really worth doing.
Great job on the install. Enjoy it.
I can answer the gas mileage question myself. It is actually just a bit better than stock. Driving in the mountains on curvy roads and not exceeding 50 mph usually means about 20 mpg but the read out says 26 mpg. I just turned about 104 miles on the 1/4 tank 239 miles on 1/2 tank and that is approximatly 25 mpg on past observations. I also hammered it a couple of times.
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I have about 250 miles on the E-force Supercharger. The Vette runs great with good manors but it did give a small problem after driving very slowly for long period. I paddled down into 3rd gear and nailed it. RPM's were very low and it bogged or acted like it was vapored locked or loaded up on gas or... It missed and surged and then set a code - "MAF" (not in correlation) and "lean on right side". I just pulled off to the side of the road an restarted the engine and all was fine. I tried another 3rd gear pull with higher RPM's and it pulled strong.

I feel that the blower was too cool to vapor lock being almost cold to the touch. I suspect the BLM's (computer) is still building it's fuel trim table.

Anybody with simular problem?
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