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Old Oct 2, 2013 | 02:41 PM
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Because all parts of the country are the same...
"Can't make 1000hp in Arizona!!!!"

His car made that number in 100* heat. Unless your barometric pressure is 70kPa, it's not going to completely kill a setup. Looking up current weather conditions, it looks to be about 100kPa which is the same as the Midwest with moderate temperature.

I would like to know, in explicit detail, what it is you think makes the "big" difference between different parts of the country.

People in Colorado have reason to bitch.

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Originally Posted by DSteck
"Can't make 1000hp in Arizona!!!!"

His car made that number in 100* heat. Unless your barometric pressure is 70kPa, it's not going to completely kill a setup. Looking up current weather conditions, it looks to be about 100kPa which is the same as the Midwest with moderate temperature.

I would like to know, in explicit detail, what it is you think makes the "big" difference between different parts of the country.

People in Colorado have reason to bitch.
Dude, I make 1k in Az. That car made it on a crap ton of meth. Cool? It's not doing jack out here with out it though.

You can probably pull of some good 700+ dynos out here in the next few months on 91 without meth. Good f-ing luck having that live through the summer though.

That camaro was not retuned and dynoed without meth on 91 out here so you have no clue what it would do.

Google IATs and get back to me. You should know better though.
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Dude, I make 1k in Az. That car made it on a crap ton of meth. Cool? It's not doing jack out here with out it though.

You can probably pull of some good 700+ dynos out here in the next few months on 91 without meth. Good f-ing luck having that live through the summer though.

That camaro was not retuned and dynoed without meth on 91 out here so you have no clue what it would do.

Google IATs and get back to me. You should know better though.
He made the 825 without meth. I threw out the 1000 remark as a reminder of the shoot from the hip foot in mouth post.

There's nothing to know better about except you think you guys are crippled or something. I asked you for an explicit explanation of why your 100+ temperatures are any different from the 100+ temperatures here or in Kansas City. I have plenty of stuff that hits 170-200* temperatures without meth, my car included, that still don't grenade and still make great power.

Don't be quick to say it can't be done. Properly sized and paired setups will make immense power even in hot climates unless the altitude is a factor. Period.
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What timing are you commanding on these 700+ 91 octane setups that see 200F IAT and how much timing is being pulled when IAT is at 200F?
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Old Oct 2, 2013 | 03:24 PM
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About 16-17 base, pull maybe 5-6 by that temperature. Pull too much and you'll melt things. Reading plugs becomes a lot more important than relying on scanner data.
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Old Oct 2, 2013 | 04:18 PM
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13.5 degrees made 860 on my car. Was fighting belt slip so never tried for more. Just drove my car to a off site work meeting. Turned meth off for the fun of it and beat on it the whole way. Didn't explode.
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13.5 degrees made 860 on my car. Was fighting belt slip so never tried for more. Just drove my car to a off site work meeting. Turned meth off for the fun of it and beat on it the whole way. Didn't explode.
Don't be a nut swinger Nick, it's fricking October, not August.

Jon has a valid question. I got money you won't run that thing off meth on 91 here when it matters and that's the point. 91 is crap gas and it takes a ton of cubes to make up for it. You know I usually avoid meth but it's an easier solution out here. Jon picked up 4* of timing even when on E85.

The point is it's damn hard to make power here on crap gas and 200* IATs. There's several great solutions. I chose E85, you chose meth and Jon chose both.
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patiently waiting on Matt or Steck, my car is ready and waiting for you to prove arizona wrong
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Old Oct 2, 2013 | 07:00 PM
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I chose E85, you chose meth and Jon chose both.
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Old Oct 2, 2013 | 07:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Drewstein
Don't be a nut swinger Nick, it's fricking October, not August.

Jon has a valid question. I got money you won't run that thing off meth on 91 here when it matters and that's the point. 91 is crap gas and it takes a ton of cubes to make up for it. You know I usually avoid meth but it's an easier solution out here. Jon picked up 4* of timing even when on E85.

The point is it's damn hard to make power here on crap gas and 200* IATs. There's several great solutions. I chose E85, you chose meth and Jon chose both.
I'm bored so I like to swing. Yes it is a lot harder to do when it is 110F out. That being said, it isn't that hard and many people have done it. Like I said I know two local Camaros pushing that power on l99 autos, no cams, no heads, no meth. I'm sure with heads/cam/etc they could get well into the 700s.

I'm going to swap my meth over to run off the flex fuel timing maps so when it is activated it just runs off that map, and when it is off stock timing map. That way no waiting on IAT, no delay.

Another easy solution to possible meth issues that cost a $15 solenoid is to wire a solenoid to your BOV and when meth is off it closes the pressure line to the BOV. Instant boost reduction.
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Old Oct 2, 2013 | 07:31 PM
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The ECS kit with headers, stage 1 fuel, and alky will get you there. No cam needed.
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Old Oct 2, 2013 | 07:33 PM
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wth is stage 1 fuel, is that import talk?
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Old Oct 2, 2013 | 07:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Unreal
I'm going to swap my meth over to run off the flex fuel timing maps so when it is activated it just runs off that map, and when it is off stock timing map. That way no waiting on IAT, no delay.

Another easy solution to possible meth issues that cost a $15 solenoid is to wire a solenoid to your BOV and when meth is off it closes the pressure line to the BOV. Instant boost reduction.
I'm excited for you to get the flex sensor running properly here so I can copy you.

There's a lot of ways to run meth well. Back to the point of the thread, it's not needed but can be beneficial.

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wth is stage 1 fuel, is that import talk?
Wait until you see how many people use the word NOS around here. Makes me want to punch babies.
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Originally Posted by Drewstein
I'm excited for you to get the flex sensor running properly here so I can copy you.

There's a lot of ways to run meth well. Back to the point of the thread, it's not needed but can be beneficial.


Wait until you see how many people use the word NOS around here. Makes me want to punch babies.
what will make you really want to rage quit is reading all the outlandish hp claims people make on cam only cars.
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Originally Posted by Drewstein
I'm excited for you to get the flex sensor running properly here so I can copy you.

There's a lot of ways to run meth well. Back to the point of the thread, it's not needed but can be beneficial.


Wait until you see how many people use the word NOS around here. Makes me want to punch babies.
thats the button i push on the arcade games when my daughter is driving right?

the NOS boost!
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Originally Posted by DCamper
wth is stage 1 fuel, is that import talk?
Its just their base fuel system upgrade.
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Originally Posted by Drewstein
I'm excited for you to get the flex sensor running properly here so I can copy you.

There's a lot of ways to run meth well. Back to the point of the thread, it's not needed but can be beneficial.


Wait until you see how many people use the word NOS around here. Makes me want to punch babies.
Not doing flex fuel or a flex fuel sensor. Using the flex fuel maps to adjust timing/fuel based on meth. No sensor, no e85.
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Not doing flex fuel or a flex fuel sensor. Using the flex fuel maps to adjust timing/fuel based on meth. No sensor, no e85.
Awe crap.
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