Pro EFI vs ?
Le Mans Master
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St. Jude Donor '08
Thanks for your support Devin.
Will E40 be issue for the ProEFI ?
Thanks for the input.
I already have QA1 and best 15” on the planet!! I assume you can control how much wheel spin you allow with the ECU.
For me to do this it needs to be something that will work without any issue as check engine lights ant think like that.
With setup like I have there are already lot of money spent on thinks like Boost controller, 2 step, speed converter for boost control and more if you want boost be gear. Then you are still missing save fall if you run out of meth or if you have fuel trouble.
I want something that will do all of those things in the same unit.
Will E40 be issue for the ProEFI ?
Thanks for the input.
I already have QA1 and best 15” on the planet!! I assume you can control how much wheel spin you allow with the ECU.
For me to do this it needs to be something that will work without any issue as check engine lights ant think like that.
With setup like I have there are already lot of money spent on thinks like Boost controller, 2 step, speed converter for boost control and more if you want boost be gear. Then you are still missing save fall if you run out of meth or if you have fuel trouble.
I want something that will do all of those things in the same unit.
well then it makes sense looking at ECU...
I assume that weather is an issue for you? ambient temps just make such a difference. Get hold of Doug cause that sounds very juicy! hey anyone wanna buy and EBC, ALKY KIT 2 STEP?? LOL!!!
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A few other things to consider when choosing between ProEFI and Haltech are ECU to PC communications, where the Pro EFI requires an expensive CAN cable to connect between the ECU and the PC, the Haltech includes a standard USB cable. The Pro EFI also does not have onboard datalogging, only an OE style fault checking system. Datalogging with a ProEFI requires the use of a CAN based datalogger system, an additional cost. The current Haltech ECU's have both onboard and PC based logging, and the new Elite series is slated to include High speed (1k hz) onboard logging, USB key logging, OE style fault checking, and PC based logging.
Yes this is correct. Consider all this. Also if you are pricing out a system make sure to contact SP (sound performance) for quotes on prices. They may just give you a CAN cable for free.
Also consider the fact you are talking about a product that is still in the development / release to public vs. a product that is on lots of cars and WORKS. I dont make any cash off PRO-EFI. I'm just telling you how I look at it.
Obviously if I made cash off one of the other products here I would tell you to go with that product but I don't.
IN THE PAST MONTH PROEFI has released these new features. Just goes to show you that development is ongoing on the platform and may other people will have to play catch up.
"Implemented a new 'Valet Mode' that requires no external switches. Prior to key on, put your throttle to the floor, and have your two step enganged (clutch pushed in, or button depressed), key on and hold for a calibrated number of seconds and the ecu will trigger a valet fault (this is set up in the fault manager). When set to sticky persistent (carries across key cycles), it will stay in that mode until you clear the code with the calibrated code clearing procedure. Once in the 'Valet Mode' you can set a number of different actions for Valet mode....power limit, base boost, disable nitrous, etc.... The New Logger/Display will also display 'VALET MODE' across the screen when triggered! You no longer have to worry about taking your car to the alignment shop, or using the valet at you favorite upscale restaurant!"
"Just finished testing a new strategy to help assist with light flywheel and grabby clutches for easy drive off! The new strategy allows you to give the engine more throttle and let the ecu control the rpm as the clutch engages. This prevents rpm flair and extra clutch slip when driving off from a stop! The strategy also doubles as a variable rate two step launch control, the more throttle you give it, the higher the launch rpm (all calibratable of course). This allows you to have controlled and consistent aggressive launches without having to be on 'kill'."
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Yes this is correct. Consider all this. Also if you are pricing out a system make sure to contact SP (sound performance) for quotes on prices. They may just give you a CAN cable for free. Also consider the fact you are talking about a product that is still in the development / release to public vs. a product that is on lots of cars and WORKS.
I dont make any cash off PRO-EFI. I'm just telling you how I look at it.
Obviously if I made cash off one of the other products here I would tell you to go with that product but I don't.
IN THE PAST MONTH PROEFI has released these new features. Just goes to show you that development is ongoing on the platform and may other people will have to play catch up.
"Implemented a new 'Valet Mode' that requires no external switches. Prior to key on, put your throttle to the floor, and have your two step enganged (clutch pushed in, or button depressed), key on and hold for a calibrated number of seconds and the ecu will trigger a valet fault (this is set up in the fault manager). When set to sticky persistent (carries across key cycles), it will stay in that mode until you clear the code with the calibrated code clearing procedure. Once in the 'Valet Mode' you can set a number of different actions for Valet mode....power limit, base boost, disable nitrous, etc.... The New Logger/Display will also display 'VALET MODE' across the screen when triggered! You no longer have to worry about taking your car to the alignment shop, or using the valet at you favorite upscale restaurant!"
"Just finished testing a new strategy to help assist with light flywheel and grabby clutches for easy drive off! The new strategy allows you to give the engine more throttle and let the ecu control the rpm as the clutch engages. This prevents rpm flair and extra clutch slip when driving off from a stop! The strategy also doubles as a variable rate two step launch control, the more throttle you give it, the higher the launch rpm (all calibratable of course). This allows you to have controlled and consistent aggressive launches without having to be on 'kill'."
Also consider the fact you are talking about a product that is still in the development / release to public vs. a product that is on lots of cars and WORKS. I dont make any cash off PRO-EFI. I'm just telling you how I look at it.
Obviously if I made cash off one of the other products here I would tell you to go with that product but I don't.
IN THE PAST MONTH PROEFI has released these new features. Just goes to show you that development is ongoing on the platform and may other people will have to play catch up.
"Implemented a new 'Valet Mode' that requires no external switches. Prior to key on, put your throttle to the floor, and have your two step enganged (clutch pushed in, or button depressed), key on and hold for a calibrated number of seconds and the ecu will trigger a valet fault (this is set up in the fault manager). When set to sticky persistent (carries across key cycles), it will stay in that mode until you clear the code with the calibrated code clearing procedure. Once in the 'Valet Mode' you can set a number of different actions for Valet mode....power limit, base boost, disable nitrous, etc.... The New Logger/Display will also display 'VALET MODE' across the screen when triggered! You no longer have to worry about taking your car to the alignment shop, or using the valet at you favorite upscale restaurant!"
"Just finished testing a new strategy to help assist with light flywheel and grabby clutches for easy drive off! The new strategy allows you to give the engine more throttle and let the ecu control the rpm as the clutch engages. This prevents rpm flair and extra clutch slip when driving off from a stop! The strategy also doubles as a variable rate two step launch control, the more throttle you give it, the higher the launch rpm (all calibratable of course). This allows you to have controlled and consistent aggressive launches without having to be on 'kill'."
Some pretty cool stuff!
Haltech has several of the same listed, and they truly are both a great product. I like the can based EGT system from Haltech, thats a big selling point for me since with tuning, knowledge is power as they say. I prefer the data logging, and so far there really hasn't been anything I have not been able to make it do yet that I wanted.
Multiple tunes on the fly, or one item I start working on this weekend was to set up my drag car with a sensor that lowers timing as the car wheel stands, and ramps it back up as it comes down so I always have the car in it's most aggressive timing. It's endless, which I find entertaining.
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Only time I ever found it helpful was one november afternoon I was sitting at the bar for several hours (dont you fvckers judge me) and happened to look outside and see my car burried in snow...
Needless to say it was helpfull on the voyage home!
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From: calgary alberta
Well I just disable it in HP tune for E38 because it is too crude and don't have to remember to shut it off everytime I start the car. Is Haltech not going to offer something similar to Davis that will actually maximize traction?
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Something else I really like about the Haltech is the EGT shut down which I think is huge personally. You have to really earn burning your motor down that way, which I do not believe is offered by Pro EFI. Let alone the tuning aspect of it, I'll post up some interesting stuff I have learned over the last year or so of using the 8 cylinder EGT's when I get a chance.
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From: Hafnarfirdi
To me it look like Pro EFI is on the winner based on this discussion. Is Pro EFI the only one that have traction control in place for the C6 Corvette? As Doug have mentioned that the Heltech will get traction control in the future but that can as well be far away and still not tested on Corvette.
