ERL Performance engine builders
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From: Aiea Hi.
ERL Performance engine builders
Anyone heard of these guys and the performance of their patented GM LS Superdeck I motors?
I'm bored and want to go all forged and these guys offer great potential for a great price. I'd like to buy their LS Superdeck I 4 Bolt short block and use my LPE heads, cam, and I take. Plus my headers and B&B exhaust and a Larger Blower. I'm getting all I can from my existing Procharger D1.
Anyways, please let me know if you know anything about these guys and their technology, patented technology by the way.
Keith
I'm bored and want to go all forged and these guys offer great potential for a great price. I'd like to buy their LS Superdeck I 4 Bolt short block and use my LPE heads, cam, and I take. Plus my headers and B&B exhaust and a Larger Blower. I'm getting all I can from my existing Procharger D1.
Anyways, please let me know if you know anything about these guys and their technology, patented technology by the way.
Keith
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Thanks to you all for your input.
Is it just me, or are they more fairly priced than most forged/sleeved aluminum short blocks?
Their technology, the Superdeck I seems perfectly fitted for high boost applications, more so than a simple standard LS short block without the Superdeck.
I'll check into them tomorrow with build times, etc.
Thanks again gents, you guys are the best!
Keith
Is it just me, or are they more fairly priced than most forged/sleeved aluminum short blocks?
Their technology, the Superdeck I seems perfectly fitted for high boost applications, more so than a simple standard LS short block without the Superdeck.
I'll check into them tomorrow with build times, etc.
Thanks again gents, you guys are the best!
Keith
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Pricing is right in line with others. If you priced out a sleeved shortblock from Livernois, RED, etc it is all about the same within $100-200. If you have a core to send in, they are a good deal compared to buying an aftermarket block.
ERL does great work. Friend made 1440rwhp spinning on the dyno on a TT setup with his. No issues. If I could go back I probably would have done the ERL over the LSX block but I didn't have a core so it was going to be $1000+ more, but in retrospect I should have just paid it.
ERL does great work. Friend made 1440rwhp spinning on the dyno on a TT setup with his. No issues. If I could go back I probably would have done the ERL over the LSX block but I didn't have a core so it was going to be $1000+ more, but in retrospect I should have just paid it.
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Pricing is right in line with others. If you priced out a sleeved shortblock from Livernois, RED, etc it is all about the same within $100-200. If you have a core to send in, they are a good deal compared to buying an aftermarket block.
ERL does great work. Friend made 1440rwhp spinning on the dyno on a TT setup with his. No issues. If I could go back I probably would have done the ERL over the LSX block but I didn't have a core so it was going to be $1000+ more, but in retrospect I should have just paid it.
ERL does great work. Friend made 1440rwhp spinning on the dyno on a TT setup with his. No issues. If I could go back I probably would have done the ERL over the LSX block but I didn't have a core so it was going to be $1000+ more, but in retrospect I should have just paid it.
Turn around time for mine was about 4 months I think? I wanted to use my block though, to keep everything matching numbers. Not that it matters really, but to me it makes a difference. Satisfied with it so far, we'll see once I push it. I am confident in the block, we'll see how the heads hold up as I stayed 4 bolt.
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Pricing is right in line with others. If you priced out a sleeved shortblock from Livernois, RED, etc it is all about the same within $100-200. If you have a core to send in, they are a good deal compared to buying an aftermarket block.
ERL does great work. Friend made 1440rwhp spinning on the dyno on a TT setup with his. No issues. If I could go back I probably would have done the ERL over the LSX block but I didn't have a core so it was going to be $1000+ more, but in retrospect I should have just paid it.
ERL does great work. Friend made 1440rwhp spinning on the dyno on a TT setup with his. No issues. If I could go back I probably would have done the ERL over the LSX block but I didn't have a core so it was going to be $1000+ more, but in retrospect I should have just paid it.
I was going through the same decision and just went with LSX block. I've had issues with sleeved blocks in other non-LS applications and seen issues with aftermarket sleeved blocks on here before, the LSX block is not much more and it has other parts of it that are stronger. the +100lbs of weight doesn't make me thrilled but given the cracking issues i've seen with RHS blocks too the LSX block seemed like the setup that would be most reliable after I looked around. ERL is legit shop but sleeving a block and doing all that machine work is tough to do perfectly.
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Can't easily get rid of extra weight later, and iron runs hotter. Since I live in a hot place (Arizona) I really wish I had an Aluminum block. Every ERL motor I've seen makes great power, no issues. Twin Turbo ZL1 camaro had a ERL 343, made 1440rwhp with ease spinning the rollers on dyno. Probably in the 1600rwhp range if actually hooking. No issues and that guy beats the hell out of that car.
I would do the ERL, RHS, LS Next Alum all before another LSX block IMO.
I would do the ERL, RHS, LS Next Alum all before another LSX block IMO.
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Can't easily get rid of extra weight later, and iron runs hotter. Since I live in a hot place (Arizona) I really wish I had an Aluminum block. Every ERL motor I've seen makes great power, no issues. Twin Turbo ZL1 camaro had a ERL 343, made 1440rwhp with ease spinning the rollers on dyno. Probably in the 1600rwhp range if actually hooking. No issues and that guy beats the hell out of that car.
I would do the ERL, RHS, LS Next Alum all before another LSX block IMO.
I would do the ERL, RHS, LS Next Alum all before another LSX block IMO.
fair point about the weight but seems like when pushing 1,200+ whp it becomes more of a traction game and I was considering going RHS but a lot of guys having issues with those lately. I got an insane deal on my LSX block setup (more than half off) so probably moot point but was wondering if you'd had any issues with your setup, sounds like just weight and temp, and I live in cold area so temp not an issue with methanks