Progressive Nitrous Controller
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Progressive Nitrous Controller
Just looking for some thoughts from everyone on running a progressive controller (lingenfelter) for a 150-200 shot on a otherwise stock zr1. The ncc-002 has a lot of safeties which is nice, just don't know if it's worth it or not
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The Maximizer 4 progressive nitrous controller operates one or two separate stages of nitrous based on either time, RPM, MPH, throttle percentage or boost pressure. Whether your engine is naturally aspirated or forced induction, gasoline or diesel,the Maximizer 4 is the first choice. The Maximizer 4 has multiple progression options to cover a variety of racing types. These progression options are described below:
Time based progression. This option is a popular choice for drag racing applications where you always start from a dead stop. This option is very easy to fine tune so that you leave soft enough to eliminate wheel spin. As you go down track, the controller smoothly adds more nitrous as traction increases.
RPM based progression. This option works great for vehicles that have enough traction to handle full nitrous power at the top of first gear. This mode allows you to add a little nitrous in the lower engine RPMs and ramp into full nitrous as the engine rpm increases. This is a great option for vehicles with a tight torque converter. Since nitrous flow is limited to a small amount at low RPMS, you can safely activate the nitrous at lower RPMs which will help to pull the car out of the hole.
MPH (Miles Per Hour) progression. This option is great for racers who sometimes begin racing from a dead stop and other times begin racing from a rolling start. The nitrous controller will automatically limit nitrous to a smaller shot at low speeds where traction is limited while providing a larger shot at higher speeds where traction is more plentiful. Bracket racers can use this feature to set a MPH nitrous cutoff for the ultimate in consistent ETs.
Throttle percentage progression. This option allows you to pedal the car in the event of wheel spin. Nitrous flow smoothly increases and decreases as you work the throttle, allowing you to regain traction and continue racing. This is very beneficial to road race and drifting vehicles. The throttle percentage feature is also beneficial for street cars because it allows you to introduce a small amount of nitrous at mid throttle while smoothly transitioning to full nitrous power as you press the throttle to the floor. The feeling is like driving a car with twice the cubic inches.
Boost based progression. This is a useful option for use on turbocharged diesels and gasoline applications. Boost progression allows nitrous to come on strong to eliminate that dreaded turbo lag but then ramps out the nitrous smoothly to let the mighty turbo do its thing. The end result is monster power with zero lag, even with a HUGE turbo. On diesel applications it will not allow nitrous delivery until the engine starts to see boost, preventing a nitrous engine stall.
AFR (Air Fuel Ratio) compensation and protection. The Maximizer 4 monitors the engines Air Fuel Ratio (from optional wideband O2 module), and automatically adjusts the fuel and nitrous solenoid output to achieve the desired Air Fuel Ratio (target AFRs are user adjustable). As bottle pressure drops toward the end of a run, the Maximizer 4 will automatically adjust the solenoid output so you maintain a consistent and safe AFR. Air Fuel Ratio safety cut off limit (too rich and too lean) are user adjustable so the controller will completely shut off nitrous flow if the Air Fuel Ratio goes outside the user defined limits.
The Maximizer 4 progressive nitrous controller operates one or two separate stages of nitrous based on either time, RPM, MPH, throttle percentage or boost pressure. Whether your engine is naturally aspirated or forced induction, gasoline or diesel,the Maximizer 4 is the first choice. The Maximizer 4 has multiple progression options to cover a variety of racing types. These progression options are described below:
Time based progression. This option is a popular choice for drag racing applications where you always start from a dead stop. This option is very easy to fine tune so that you leave soft enough to eliminate wheel spin. As you go down track, the controller smoothly adds more nitrous as traction increases.
RPM based progression. This option works great for vehicles that have enough traction to handle full nitrous power at the top of first gear. This mode allows you to add a little nitrous in the lower engine RPMs and ramp into full nitrous as the engine rpm increases. This is a great option for vehicles with a tight torque converter. Since nitrous flow is limited to a small amount at low RPMS, you can safely activate the nitrous at lower RPMs which will help to pull the car out of the hole.
MPH (Miles Per Hour) progression. This option is great for racers who sometimes begin racing from a dead stop and other times begin racing from a rolling start. The nitrous controller will automatically limit nitrous to a smaller shot at low speeds where traction is limited while providing a larger shot at higher speeds where traction is more plentiful. Bracket racers can use this feature to set a MPH nitrous cutoff for the ultimate in consistent ETs.
Throttle percentage progression. This option allows you to pedal the car in the event of wheel spin. Nitrous flow smoothly increases and decreases as you work the throttle, allowing you to regain traction and continue racing. This is very beneficial to road race and drifting vehicles. The throttle percentage feature is also beneficial for street cars because it allows you to introduce a small amount of nitrous at mid throttle while smoothly transitioning to full nitrous power as you press the throttle to the floor. The feeling is like driving a car with twice the cubic inches.
Boost based progression. This is a useful option for use on turbocharged diesels and gasoline applications. Boost progression allows nitrous to come on strong to eliminate that dreaded turbo lag but then ramps out the nitrous smoothly to let the mighty turbo do its thing. The end result is monster power with zero lag, even with a HUGE turbo. On diesel applications it will not allow nitrous delivery until the engine starts to see boost, preventing a nitrous engine stall.
AFR (Air Fuel Ratio) compensation and protection. The Maximizer 4 monitors the engines Air Fuel Ratio (from optional wideband O2 module), and automatically adjusts the fuel and nitrous solenoid output to achieve the desired Air Fuel Ratio (target AFRs are user adjustable). As bottle pressure drops toward the end of a run, the Maximizer 4 will automatically adjust the solenoid output so you maintain a consistent and safe AFR. Air Fuel Ratio safety cut off limit (too rich and too lean) are user adjustable so the controller will completely shut off nitrous flow if the Air Fuel Ratio goes outside the user defined limits.
Drifting
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iv used the nos mini love it very simple to set up and use can change the ramp time and stuff in seconds .just have to have the car tuned with the ecu taking the timing out. btw i have one forsale new out of the box!
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The Maximizer 4 progressive nitrous controller operates one or two separate stages of nitrous based on either time, RPM, MPH, throttle percentage or boost pressure. Whether your engine is naturally aspirated or forced induction, gasoline or diesel,the Maximizer 4 is the first choice. The Maximizer 4 has multiple progression options to cover a variety of racing types. These progression options are described below:
Time based progression. This option is a popular choice for drag racing applications where you always start from a dead stop. This option is very easy to fine tune so that you leave soft enough to eliminate wheel spin. As you go down track, the controller smoothly adds more nitrous as traction increases.
RPM based progression. This option works great for vehicles that have enough traction to handle full nitrous power at the top of first gear. This mode allows you to add a little nitrous in the lower engine RPMs and ramp into full nitrous as the engine rpm increases. This is a great option for vehicles with a tight torque converter. Since nitrous flow is limited to a small amount at low RPMS, you can safely activate the nitrous at lower RPMs which will help to pull the car out of the hole.
MPH (Miles Per Hour) progression. This option is great for racers who sometimes begin racing from a dead stop and other times begin racing from a rolling start. The nitrous controller will automatically limit nitrous to a smaller shot at low speeds where traction is limited while providing a larger shot at higher speeds where traction is more plentiful. Bracket racers can use this feature to set a MPH nitrous cutoff for the ultimate in consistent ETs.
Throttle percentage progression. This option allows you to pedal the car in the event of wheel spin. Nitrous flow smoothly increases and decreases as you work the throttle, allowing you to regain traction and continue racing. This is very beneficial to road race and drifting vehicles. The throttle percentage feature is also beneficial for street cars because it allows you to introduce a small amount of nitrous at mid throttle while smoothly transitioning to full nitrous power as you press the throttle to the floor. The feeling is like driving a car with twice the cubic inches.
Boost based progression. This is a useful option for use on turbocharged diesels and gasoline applications. Boost progression allows nitrous to come on strong to eliminate that dreaded turbo lag but then ramps out the nitrous smoothly to let the mighty turbo do its thing. The end result is monster power with zero lag, even with a HUGE turbo. On diesel applications it will not allow nitrous delivery until the engine starts to see boost, preventing a nitrous engine stall.
AFR (Air Fuel Ratio) compensation and protection. The Maximizer 4 monitors the engines Air Fuel Ratio (from optional wideband O2 module), and automatically adjusts the fuel and nitrous solenoid output to achieve the desired Air Fuel Ratio (target AFRs are user adjustable). As bottle pressure drops toward the end of a run, the Maximizer 4 will automatically adjust the solenoid output so you maintain a consistent and safe AFR. Air Fuel Ratio safety cut off limit (too rich and too lean) are user adjustable so the controller will completely shut off nitrous flow if the Air Fuel Ratio goes outside the user defined limits.
The Maximizer 4 progressive nitrous controller operates one or two separate stages of nitrous based on either time, RPM, MPH, throttle percentage or boost pressure. Whether your engine is naturally aspirated or forced induction, gasoline or diesel,the Maximizer 4 is the first choice. The Maximizer 4 has multiple progression options to cover a variety of racing types. These progression options are described below:
Time based progression. This option is a popular choice for drag racing applications where you always start from a dead stop. This option is very easy to fine tune so that you leave soft enough to eliminate wheel spin. As you go down track, the controller smoothly adds more nitrous as traction increases.
RPM based progression. This option works great for vehicles that have enough traction to handle full nitrous power at the top of first gear. This mode allows you to add a little nitrous in the lower engine RPMs and ramp into full nitrous as the engine rpm increases. This is a great option for vehicles with a tight torque converter. Since nitrous flow is limited to a small amount at low RPMS, you can safely activate the nitrous at lower RPMs which will help to pull the car out of the hole.
MPH (Miles Per Hour) progression. This option is great for racers who sometimes begin racing from a dead stop and other times begin racing from a rolling start. The nitrous controller will automatically limit nitrous to a smaller shot at low speeds where traction is limited while providing a larger shot at higher speeds where traction is more plentiful. Bracket racers can use this feature to set a MPH nitrous cutoff for the ultimate in consistent ETs.
Throttle percentage progression. This option allows you to pedal the car in the event of wheel spin. Nitrous flow smoothly increases and decreases as you work the throttle, allowing you to regain traction and continue racing. This is very beneficial to road race and drifting vehicles. The throttle percentage feature is also beneficial for street cars because it allows you to introduce a small amount of nitrous at mid throttle while smoothly transitioning to full nitrous power as you press the throttle to the floor. The feeling is like driving a car with twice the cubic inches.
Boost based progression. This is a useful option for use on turbocharged diesels and gasoline applications. Boost progression allows nitrous to come on strong to eliminate that dreaded turbo lag but then ramps out the nitrous smoothly to let the mighty turbo do its thing. The end result is monster power with zero lag, even with a HUGE turbo. On diesel applications it will not allow nitrous delivery until the engine starts to see boost, preventing a nitrous engine stall.
AFR (Air Fuel Ratio) compensation and protection. The Maximizer 4 monitors the engines Air Fuel Ratio (from optional wideband O2 module), and automatically adjusts the fuel and nitrous solenoid output to achieve the desired Air Fuel Ratio (target AFRs are user adjustable). As bottle pressure drops toward the end of a run, the Maximizer 4 will automatically adjust the solenoid output so you maintain a consistent and safe AFR. Air Fuel Ratio safety cut off limit (too rich and too lean) are user adjustable so the controller will completely shut off nitrous flow if the Air Fuel Ratio goes outside the user defined limits.
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From: Waco Texas
The great thing about the Lingenfelter is that it is so flexible, and updateable. It can be wired to control every aspect of your system, and as you said, it has numerous safety features in place. It can also control your nitrous based on time, RPM, MPH, and gear position. It's safety features include a time-based over-ride, fuel pressure safety over-ride, AFR safety over-ride. It also can ramp your timing when used in conjunction with the LNC-2000/2001/2014, which will help you get the best timing throughout the ramp. It will also log RPM, TPS, AFR, Ramps, Timing, Fuel Pressure, Bottle Pressure, and other configurable options. Now with the Lingenfelter NCC android app you can download the logs using bluetooth to review them on the fly and make changes if necessary.
The NCC is by far, the most feature packed controller on the market currently. However, I do understand that for some people it may be a bit much to handle. The NOS Launcher is another great option that falls in line with the Max 4. The Launcher is programmed by laptop if you don't opt for the optional touch-screen LCD. One of the great things about the Launcher, is that's it's dead simple to use. It's very straight-forward, and has a lot of options for the price range. The Launcher is also capable of interrupting your nitrous if your AFR is too rich or lean but you have to purchase a compatible wideband box from Holley. The Launcher can also data-log most of the same things the NCC can if you have the correct sensors, but it will not log anything with your timing. For the mid $400 range, the Launcher is a great alternative option for those not wanting to spend the money on the NCC-002, but you will lose some of the things that the NCC is great for.
The NCC is by far, the most feature packed controller on the market currently. However, I do understand that for some people it may be a bit much to handle. The NOS Launcher is another great option that falls in line with the Max 4. The Launcher is programmed by laptop if you don't opt for the optional touch-screen LCD. One of the great things about the Launcher, is that's it's dead simple to use. It's very straight-forward, and has a lot of options for the price range. The Launcher is also capable of interrupting your nitrous if your AFR is too rich or lean but you have to purchase a compatible wideband box from Holley. The Launcher can also data-log most of the same things the NCC can if you have the correct sensors, but it will not log anything with your timing. For the mid $400 range, the Launcher is a great alternative option for those not wanting to spend the money on the NCC-002, but you will lose some of the things that the NCC is great for.
