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Old Mar 5, 2016 | 09:54 AM
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Yep. $88.00 and probably ~$200 shipping. And then it will probably come wrecked, half-hanging out of the box, and Customs will still charge me 27.5% import duty on the cost, shipping and insurance. Or, I could always get the local "dealer" (pronounced "stealer") to bring one in. That'll only take 2-3 months, cost $500.00 and most likely will not be the right part. That's the cost of living in "paradise", I guess...
Seriously though, I'll probably order one at some stage, probably soon, so that I can replace it when I go at the cam.
Maybe they'll drill some holes in it too
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Maybe they'll drill some holes in it too
You know it!
I still can't believe that they did that.
And I thought we had a monopoly on azzholic customs officers!
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Old Mar 5, 2016 | 11:00 AM
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I thought all you have to do is click your heels 3 times. Great movie quotes from you. I bet Woodstoc wishes he could do that about now?
If only!
Woodstoc is probably already out on the road testing already. Or he developed a migraine when he saw that picture above of the new Magnuson!
I'm still pissed that they didn't do that with our blowers!
As for quotes, everytime I look at the duct tape on my shroud, I remember the star of the Red Green Show saying (whilst holding up a roll of duct tape) "Duct tape! Because if you can't be handsome, you might as well be handy!!"
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Old Mar 5, 2016 | 06:28 PM
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Oh my god, they had to send me one of the old ones.....You are right, that really pisses me off. Thanks for the tune Sammy, as I said in the email, I don't have HP Tuners, so it didn't work out for me.

However, I found the issue. Kept getting a code for the MAP/MAF sensor, so I switched back to the original MAP, still not joy, ran like crap, and like burned bag of crap, crap. I swung by the dealer today to pick up the stock shroud (mine looks better than yours ....) and on a whim, bought another MAF sensor as well. Plugged it in, and BAM, the car runs and idles. PUt back in the ZR1 MAP, and went ahead and downloaded the Maggie tune, and BAM, the car runs and idles. Just went for a test drive and all is golden. Even took it a few lbs into boost.

Going to be careful with it until I get the dyno tune done, but wow, nice to have it run at least. Looking forward to dropping a little weight from the tires..... BTW....Thanks to all of the brothers in boost for the helpful advice during this project, As always, the people on the forum rock.

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Attaboy. I was skeered you were going to call tonite. I plan on being mostly inebriated by 7pm. Not much help sober. I damn sure woulda sent you in the wrong direction later tonite
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Old Mar 5, 2016 | 07:13 PM
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You hook this into your Dashlogic?
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Old Mar 5, 2016 | 07:22 PM
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Attaboy. I was skeered you were going to call tonite. I plan on being mostly inebriated by 7pm. Not much help sober. I damn sure woulda sent you in the wrong direction later tonite
I'll join you in that endeavor, I could use a few myself after this little project. Who would have thought? The first test drive went well for a couple of miles, Friday night then the MAF goes bad.....Barely made it home at about 10 miles an hour, bucking and wheezing. Never would have thought about the MAF deciding to give up the ghost. The code it threw was what it took for me to connect it. Alls golden now.

BTW the tuner you steered me to doesn't tune anymore, only sells parts, some issue with the County. I found a company called D3 that looks pretty good. I'll either go with them or LMR for the dyno tune.
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Old Mar 5, 2016 | 07:24 PM
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Oh my god, they had to send me one of the old ones.....You are right, that really pisses me off. Thanks for the tune Sammy, as I said in the email, I don't have HP Tuners, so it didn't work out for me.

However, I found the issue. Kept getting a code for the MAP/MAF sensor, so I switched back to the original MAP, still not joy, ran like crap, and like burned bag of crap, crap. I swung by the dealer today to pick up the stock shroud (mine looks better than yours ....) and on a whim, bought another MAF sensor as well. Plugged it in, and BAM, the car runs and idles. PUt back in the ZR1 MAP, and went ahead and downloaded the Maggie tune, and BAM, the car runs and idles. Just went for a test drive and all is golden. Even took it a few lbs into boost.

Going to be careful with it until I get the dyno tune done, but wow, nice to have it run at least. Looking forward to dropping a little weight from the tires..... BTW....Thanks to all of the brothers in boost for the helpful advice during this project, As always, the people on the forum rock.

Feels good to get it going again, don't it? Almost makes you forget about the missing skin!
I don't think Magnuson changed (or will change) the design of the C6 units. That pic is their new unit for the new Camaro with the LT1 engine. I see some other improvements, like a smaller bearing housing on the drive pulley. They should be able to put a small pulley on that.
Sorry to hear that you can't use the tunes. I'm still sticking to my advice to go with a 90mm for now and then upgrade to the 81mm later if and when you change injectors and add meth.
Those MAF sensors are sensitive. I had a similar problem the other day when I was messing around with the inlet (pulling those sound deadening pads out of it) I had to pull the MAF sensor out to do that and when I tried it afterwards the car was lugging and bucking like crazy. All I did was pull it back out, spray some electrical cleaner on it (even though I had done it before) and then put it back in again, and it's been smooth as silk ever since. Not sure wtf was up with all of that!?
I guess I will have to buy a new shroud now, since I'm starting to feel really shamed by sharing that picture with you guys!
Good work, and welcome to the world of boost!
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Old Mar 5, 2016 | 07:29 PM
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You hook this into your Dashlogic?
Yes, you use the single grey wire to connect to one of the 4 analog pins on the SM-AFR module and the other end to the Dashlogic analog input. I'll take some pictures in a little while and post them for you.
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Attaboy. I was skeered you were going to call tonite. I plan on being mostly inebriated by 7pm. Not much help sober. I damn sure woulda sent you in the wrong direction later tonite

I have a feeling that back when he tackled those two rear bolts, he already thought that you had sent him in the wrong direction...
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I have an 87 mm sitting on my workbench, with a gator back belt. Think I'll pop it on tomorrow, see how it runs with easy throttle, and try to get it into the tuner early next week. Just need it to get me to work and back, I got lucky with the weather last week for the bike, but next week not looking as pleasent.
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I have an 87 mm sitting on my workbench, with a gator back belt. Think I'll pop it on tomorrow, see how it runs with easy throttle, and try to get it into the tuner early next week. Just need it to get me to work and back, I got lucky with the weather last week for the bike, but next week not looking as pleasent.
Okay, didn't realize that you had the 87mm already. But be careful and stay away from WOT. That 87 will be quite a bump in boost from the 96mm.
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Okay, didn't realize that you had the 87mm already. But be careful and stay away from WOT. That 87 will be quite a bump in boost from the 96mm.
Going to be real careful until I get the tune. The BAP and Racetronix will help once it's tuned properly.

BTW - I was so tired of working on the beast, that I figured out a way to do the Shroud easy, in case you decide to get one. Rather than take the INtercoolers lines off, and do all that again, I cut the old shroud above the coolant lines, along a convenient line, leaving the coolant lines intact. Then I cut the new one just below that, leaving enought to overlap and attach. Much quicker, and you don't see it. Just a tip back in your direction....
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You hook this into your Dashlogic?
Yes.

Mr CI has already answered more about it.. but yeah, there's one wire you have to run from it over to the input on dash logic, then there is some setup you have to do on the dash logic unit so it knows what to do with the newly found 0-5V signal
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Since I plan on a dyno hopefully some time this week if I can get in, I decided to go ahead with the 87mm. Took the car for a test drive and can tell the canned tune needs work with this pulley, but it drives pretty solid, just going to keep it out of boost for the most part until it's right. A good amount of difference between the two....

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After installing that smaller pulley, just be VERY careful until you get a proper tune. The thing I absolutely love about these things is what can easily get you into trouble. Part throttle boost can get really high after you pulley down. You can see almost full boost at little more than half throttle at low rpm. If your tune's not right, that's a recipe for trouble. Also, you're probably out of injector if you're still running the injectors that came with the kit. Drive it like an old man (yeah, that's you and me) until you get it tuned.
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After installing that smaller pulley, just be VERY careful until you get a proper tune. The thing I absolutely love about these things is what can easily get you into trouble. Part throttle boost can get really high after you pulley down. You can see almost full boost at little more than half throttle at low rpm. If your tune's not right, that's a recipe for trouble. Also, you're probably out of injector if you're still running the injectors that came with the kit. Drive it like an old man (yeah, that's you and me) until you get it tuned.
Good advice. I even brought the Vitasee throttle controller into the lower scales to make sure the throttle is dumbed down a bit until I get it dialed in. No fun for this old guy until then. I knocked down a few Woodford Reserves to celebrate...
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Good advice. I even brought the Vitasee throttle controller into the lower scales to make sure the throttle is dumbed down a bit until I get it dialed in. No fun for this old guy until then. I knocked down a few Woodford Reserves to celebrate...
OH man! Now we've got two crazy old Texan motorheads with Heartbeat blowers on their Vettes!
Here's that photo I promised. Sorry it's so crappy, but I was kinda shaky when I took the photo. I snapped it in the darkness of my garage after running the smack outta some fop in a dressed up Mazda RX8 this afternoon, and had to run home and hide, just in case I might've disturbed the peace enough to wake up one of our finest!
The old Vette whopped some Wankel butt, big time. I was a real gentleman about it too, gave Wankel boy a running head start, then kicked it down and ran right by him, and by the time I had reached the top of fourth, he was a distant memory.
Of course then when we got back on a busy road and there was traffic up ahead, he decided to inspect my rear bumper and pulled right up behind me, as if we could somehow fly over cars! What a dumbass. Worse part was that the wifey was in the car with me and she didn't say anything on the drive home, literally not a word!
At first I thought I was sleeping in the garage tonight, but it turned out (luckily) that she's wasn't fussed at all. I guess she's become quite used to me and the Vette now.
Oh well, I guess it really is time for a power upgrade!
OK, back to the photo, hopefully you can see the pole on the PLX box that's used (grey wire- comes with the PLX) and where it goes on the Dashlogic. As schpenxel said, you need to configure your Dashlogic to read the analog input, but you can get that from the instructional manual.
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OH man! Now we've got two crazy old Texan motorheads with Heartbeat blowers on their Vettes!
Here's that photo I promised. Sorry it's so crappy, but I was kinda shaky when I took the photo. I snapped it in the darkness of my garage after running the smack outta some fop in a dressed up Mazda RX8 this afternoon, and had to run home and hide, just in case I might've disturbed the peace enough to wake up one of our finest!
The old Vette whopped some Wankel butt, big time. I was a real gentleman about it too, gave Wankel boy a running head start, then kicked it down and ran right by him, and by the time I had reached the top of fourth, he was a distant memory.
Of course then when we got back on a busy road and there was traffic up ahead, he decided to inspect my rear bumper and pulled right up behind me, as if we could somehow fly over cars! What a dumbass. Worse part was that the wifey was in the car with me and she didn't say anything on the drive home, literally not a word!
At first I thought I was sleeping in the garage tonight, but it turned out (luckily) that she's wasn't fussed at all. I guess she's become quite used to me and the Vette now.
Oh well, I guess it really is time for a power upgrade!
OK, back to the photo, hopefully you can see the pole on the PLX box that's used (grey wire- comes with the PLX) and where it goes on the Dashlogic. As schpenxel said, you need to configure your Dashlogic to read the analog input, but you can get that from the instructional manual.
Looks like you are not one for coffee in the car in the morning..lol. Thanks, that will come in handy, ordering the PLX tomorrow.
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Pretty sure I'd be sleeping outside if I did much past 3000 RPM's with the significant other in the car
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