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Old Apr 17, 2016 | 12:56 AM
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I never said I was traction limited at 60+, although I do get some spin at the top of 3rd depending on the surface. I'm traction limited below that, specifically from a dead stop or hammering it in 1st or 2nd. Part of that is the GS M6 gearing, which is very short compared to base/Z06 and especially ZR1 ratios. And yes, I know all about drag radials, but prefer a DOT road course tire to be able to do aggressive driving on twisty backroads (currently running a Continental track tire on the rear with 80 treadwear in the same class as R888). The other part of the equation is that I actually like to drive my car on trips, and keep a second pair of rear wheels with street run-flats for trips. As for the ProEFI, I didn't say I need it now, but I could definitely see the need when going for 750+RW. It would also help out with getting better traction when running street tires. I've seen plenty of big HP cars that can't put the power down well, even at a roll, and have seen many times where a lower HP with better traction can get the jump or out drag a higher HP car.

IF I was going to do ProEFI it would be in combination with going FlexFuel, 3.4 pulley, LTs and cam to try and hit 750-800 on the V3 Si, before upgrading to something like a YSI or F1X. Like I said above though, I don't really think I want to go down that road as the car is very fun and has been super reliable at it's current level.

And MBB, unless I'm mistaken you're car is still stock or close to it and you're previous Vette was not even 500RW, so I don't think you really have a valid opinion on whether I'm traction limited or not at almost 700RW, or whether guys making a LOT more than me are "perfectly ok" running on DRs with stock ECU.

OP, sorry for you're post getting taken off topic with all of this.
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Old Apr 17, 2016 | 12:29 PM
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I run around town and other places on my 19" CCW's which have street tires on them cause I like to cruise and hit back roads also but when it's business time I have a set of Weld's with dr's I throw on. That's really all you have to do. No way I'd be trying to make pulls on street tires. Good luck getting a s trim to make that much. It would probably break before that. The GS gearing doesn't help in your situation.

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Old Apr 18, 2016 | 10:57 PM
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IF I was going to do ProEFI it would be in combination with going FlexFuel, 3.4 pulley, LTs and cam to try and hit 750-800 on the V3 Si, before upgrading to something like a YSI or F1X. Like I said above though, I don't really think I want to go down that road as the car is very fun and has been super reliable at it's current level.

You're not making 750-800 out of an S trim...not even maxed on kill.

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And MBB, unless I'm mistaken you're car is still stock or close to it and you're previous Vette was not even 500RW, so I don't think you really have a valid opinion on whether I'm traction limited or not at almost 700RW, or whether guys making a LOT more than me are "perfectly ok" running on DRs with stock ECU.
You're mistaken.. And my Black car made 626/646 on dope, it was closer to 486rwhp n/a. My current car is being prepped for Flex Fuel, and we'll see what she makes. It will more than likely be closer to 7xxwhp through the auto.

I'll be happy to run you at the next RR, any weekend at Ennis, or on the street. Your call.

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I run around town and other places on my 19" CCW's which have street tires on them cause I like to cruise and hit back roads also but when it's business time I have a set of Weld's with dr's I throw on. That's really all you have to do. No way I'd be trying to make pulls on street tires. Good luck getting a s trim to make that much. It would probably break before that. The GS gearing doesn't help in your situation.
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My current car is being prepped for Flex Fuel, and we'll see what she makes. It will more than likely be closer to 7xxwhp through the auto.

I'll be happy to run you at the next RR, any weekend at Ennis, or on the street. Your call.
So again I ask, what's done (or going to be done) to your current car that you think you're going to get 700RW with E85? Blower? Turbo? And are you going to build the A6 in advance or wait for it to blow up like the one in your black car?

I'll be happy to give you a run, how about WannaGOFast at Sulphur Springs this fall? Should give you plenty of time to get your car done.
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Old Apr 19, 2016 | 12:06 AM
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We have a lot of 1000rw+ vettes running around dfw on stock ECUs. If you get an aftermarket ECU at anything under 1700rw your just wasting money. If you want to run people from a dig on street tires go back to stock.
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Old Apr 19, 2016 | 08:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Evan70
So again I ask, what's done (or going to be done) to your current car that you think you're going to get 700RW with E85? Blower? Turbo? And are you going to build the A6 in advance or wait for it to blow up like the one in your black car?

I'll be happy to give you a run, how about WannaGOFast at Sulphur Springs this fall? Should give you plenty of time to get your car done.
The trans in the Black car wasn't blown up, it was just a poor tune on it. I took it to Sam and he fixed it. I met the new owner at a car meet, he loves it and beats the **** out of it. Plenty of autos making 800whp and living...it's all in the tune which I admittedly did not have a good one at the time.

What's done? The right combo of parts. Hopefully we'll be ready to rock by month's end. I'll be happy to run you at WannaGoFast this fall..unless of course we cross paths at Ennis before that (which I doubt).

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Old Apr 19, 2016 | 09:01 AM
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Evan/MBB... Save it for the track.... Looking forward to this.....
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Old Apr 19, 2016 | 09:25 AM
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Evan/MBB... Save it for the track.... Looking forward to this.....
Agreed. Sorry to thread crap. I'll be waiting at the track Evan.
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Old Apr 19, 2016 | 09:53 AM
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Wait, there are corvettes that run at the track in Dallas? It sounds like we need to set up a Houston vs. Dallas track event.
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Old Apr 19, 2016 | 10:03 AM
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Wait, there are corvettes that run at the track in Dallas? It sounds like we need to set up a Houston vs. Dallas track event.
I've been debating setting something up with Phil at Corvette World. Maybe Royal Purple would host us?
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Old Apr 19, 2016 | 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Zeekaral
We have a lot of 1000rw+ vettes running around dfw on stock ECUs. If you get an aftermarket ECU at anything under 1700rw your just wasting money. If you want to run people from a dig on street tires go back to stock.
Not even close to being accurate... Any good aftermarket ecu will do wonders for a car, way more safety features, better tuning capabilities, built in boost control, traction control, the list can go on and on.
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Old Apr 19, 2016 | 10:39 AM
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Wait, there are corvettes that run at the track in Dallas? It sounds like we need to set up a Houston vs. Dallas track event.
i want in on this. whose team would i be on?
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Old Apr 19, 2016 | 11:59 AM
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i want in on this. whose team would i be on?
I know which team I want you to be on.
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Not even close to being accurate... Any good aftermarket ecu will do wonders for a car, way more safety features, better tuning capabilities, built in boost control, traction control, the list can go on and on.
Well true...you can also use a cannon to kill a house fly, doesn't mean it's a better option than a fly swatter though.

The point he was making, is that a custom ECU and tuning is a lot of cash and effort to go through for a sub 1,000whp car to solve an issue that a set of tires can fix. You could spend the money on an ecu sure..but it's overkill at that power level to solve that issue.

You have to understand, we're all in Texas... 7xxwhp is daily driver HP.

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Well worth it when you do more than just daily your car.. I race my car and want to put down every bit of power I can, and have full control without using other addons, such as a boost controller then buy another device to run boost by speed, then have another device for a 2 step etc.

Put a standalone on your car and let me know how you feel afterwards.
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Originally Posted by Dude_man
Well worth it when you do more than just daily your car.. I race my car and want to put down every bit of power I can, and have full control without using other addons, such as a boost controller then buy another device to run boost by speed, then have another device for a 2 step etc.

Put a standalone on your car and let me know how you feel afterwards.
Not arguing that a custom ecu is a better and cleaner way to go. If money is no object then sure it's optimal. No one in that particular discussion is going to use 2 step, boost by speed/gear, or a boost controller, etc...so it's a moot point.

Your car moves out, I can't wait to see what the new setup does. I didn't know you had a standalone on it.

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No stand alone yet but that's the next step. The other Vette I'm building has an infinity on it. My main comment was directed towards the 1700hp statement made by the other guy.
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Got the infinity system up and going yet? Or still working on transmission?
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Originally Posted by Turbo-Geist
I know which team I want you to be on.
seriously, let me know if and when this is gonna go down. i would definitely trailer the car down.
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Got the infinity system up and going yet? Or still working on transmission?
Trans is in, been waiting on rpm to answer some questions about the wiring.
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